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Old 03-09-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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Anyone on welfare that has a child should have their kids taken away and placed into foster care until their parents can improve their situation and get off the public dime. There would be no greater motivation to turn your life around.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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why are there still three times as many unemployed as there are job openings?

why are there so many long-term unemployed people over 50 whose extended unemployment benefits ran out long ago? can these people work if they wanted to?
The unemployment rate is now down to what it was in 2008 -- that's great news and it means people can find jobs again.

There might be 3 applicants for every job out there because many people, especially those getting unemployment checks are forced to apply to jobs and many have applied to more than one.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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The official unemployment rates are inaccurate. Even media outlets have admitted this on occasion. Single digit rates are used as a propaganda tool to gain votes and confuse people into believing there is a real recovery going on. When the unemployment rate goes down it's most likely because people give up looking for a job. It doesn't mean people are getting hired.

People give up = no longer counted on rolls = lower unemployment rate

Pay attention and wake up.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:36 PM
 
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The unemployment rate is now down to what it was in 2008 -- that's great news and it means people can find jobs again.

There might be 3 applicants for every job out there because many people, especially those getting unemployment checks are forced to apply to jobs and many have applied to more than one.

Many of the unemployed are no longer receiving unemployment benefits and therefore have no financial incentive to stay unemployed, but they can't find jobs.

And you didn't address those over 50, many of whom will never again find employment.
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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Stop all public housing subsidies. No section 8. Nada. If people are homeless, let them live in large institutions. With rules and structure. Up at 6 am, oatmeal for breakfast, be at public work assignment by 800. No drugs. No booze. No illegals. Not going to work? Leave.

All food would be provided at the housing institutions, and schools. EBT and food stamps can end. Subsidized food provided at senior centers for oldsters and people with disabilities. Children could have three meals a day at school. It galls me that food is provided now at schools, and families still get EBT. it islike ddouble dipping.

And end corporate welfare. Farm subsidies. And all money we send to other nations.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Clermont Fl
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Many of the unemployed are no longer receiving unemployment benefits and therefore have no financial incentive to stay unemployed, but they can't find jobs.

And you didn't address those over 50, many of whom will never again find employment.
if you are not working its because you do not want to work.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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Why is it ok to use tax dollars for personal things like food stamps, housing and so on? Thats up to you not the government.

Other then a moral belief that you might have, you should not be able to use any tax dollar on any individual needs. Is it that much to ask for people to take care of themselves.
you'd expect a question like this from someone who is maybe ten years old.

Do you even realize what would happen to society if you had no social safety net?
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:03 AM
 
Location: World
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Stop all public housing subsidies. No section 8. Nada. If people are homeless, let them live in large institutions. With rules and structure. Up at 6 am, oatmeal for breakfast, be at public work assignment by 800. No drugs. No booze. No illegals. Not going to work? Leave.

All food would be provided at the housing institutions, and schools. EBT and food stamps can end. Subsidized food provided at senior centers for oldsters and people with disabilities. Children could have three meals a day at school. It galls me that food is provided now at schools, and families still get EBT. it islike ddouble dipping.

And end corporate welfare. Farm subsidies. And all money we send to other nations.
How about spending billions of dollars on useless military bases around the world and defense contractors???? Can we afford them??? End that also. We need cuts in Defense Budget.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:37 AM
 
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Stop all public housing subsidies. No section 8. Nada. If people are homeless, let them live in large institutions. With rules and structure. Up at 6 am, oatmeal for breakfast, be at public work assignment by 800. No drugs. No booze. No illegals. Not going to work? Leave.

All food would be provided at the housing institutions, and schools. EBT and food stamps can end. Subsidized food provided at senior centers for oldsters and people with disabilities. Children could have three meals a day at school. It galls me that food is provided now at schools, and families still get EBT. it islike ddouble dipping.

And end corporate welfare. Farm subsidies. And all money we send to other nations.

In that case, stop all the excessive regulation and taxation which makes renting so expensive:

Stop unrelated occupancy limits which are more restrictive than limits for families.

Stop artificial zoning restrictions which make it difficult and unnecessarily expensive to build and provide affordable rental housing. Let capitalism work.

Stop housing codes from imposing middle class standards that make housing hard for working class people to afford.

Stop using zoning to exclude affordable ownership opportunities for working class people.

Stop taxing rental property at higher rates than owner-occupied homes.

Stop redistributing income upward from renters to homeowners.

Fair enough?
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:46 AM
 
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if you are not working its because you do not want to work.

You really believe everyone who is unemployed doesn't want to work?
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