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what is going on? I can understand one rogue cop, but not a gang of them all covering for eachother. Then the department and the city cover for them.
We need a zero tolerance policy for them.
By this measure, I should be hating all black people, because of the actions of a few. But that would be racist, now wouldn't it?
By this measure, I should be hating all black people, because of the actions of a few. But that would be racist, now wouldn't it?
We all (cops included) should be supporting the apprehension and prosecution of some of the criminals shown in those videos. Black, brown, blue or whatever color they are.
The worst instances I've had with police as a black man has come from black officers.
Wesee otehrs assultingothers by thousands ;beatig old ladies on head for a few bucks and we think its unusual for one cop to go crazy? I guess some think wearing mask should be poitlawed by protestoers alos since they hide their faces to disgise crimes they committ.
He specifically pointed out his issues with "OFFICERS GETTING AWAY WITH THEIR CRIMES"
They should not be above the law. I have been a victim of police abuse of power. Perjury, obstruction of justice, falsifying documents.
Police abuse is real. Reform is needed. Even some officers believe so. The good ones at least.
Your absolutely right, they should not be above the law, and anyone that is should be prosecuted...but gain, as in everything else, there are always some bad ones...police abuse has been going on since day one....but there are in fact, many more good cops then bad ones....
you are full of it, honestly, you have a serious problem, perhaps had problems with the law, or problems obeying rules....whatever your problem...you need help....honestly...to dislike a people this much, there is definately something going on here....are you in need of attention? I bet you any money, you've been a problem child, with no respect for rules...chip on your shoulder, you feel that rules probably don't apply to you or shouldn't.
for every bad story there are 10 great ones....unfortunately, the great ones do not get publisized.
I'll tell you what, remember in one of my posts I said, cops surely do not get paid enough....well they don't and we here in the U.S. need to revisit that one for sure....any way, these boards that hire police officers, know, that most of the men who are applying have a great passion for law enforcement and they would work for pennies...just to be a police officer...so, these communities across the U.S. take advantage of that, and pay them pennies. I don't believe anyone here has any idea what the hiring process is like? They want to hire the best, but they don't want to pay them any kind of decent wage.
If we didn't have police officers, by God, everything would be chaotic...
You seem to be the one taking this personally, they are not heroes just because they wear a uniform. I actually used to admire them. I've had very little contact with them over my lifetime. I had a DUI about 30 years ago, that's it. I was treated fairly. My awareness has grown over the years as to police brutality, the victims of such, and it's getting worse. Putting your blinders on, is not in the publics best interest. I always viewed them as protectors and brave like you, now I see them more as cowards hiding behind a badge, their cohorts and the corrupt system in which they get the benefit of the doubt and we are forced to prove our innocence. It used to be the other way around, we were innocent until proven guilty.
The scales of justice are weighted against us.
You seem to be the one taking this personally, they are not heroes just because they wear a uniform. I actually used to admire them. I've had very little contact with them over my lifetime. I had a DUI about 30 years ago, that's it. I was treated fairly. My awareness has grown over the years as to police brutality, the victims of such, and it's getting worse. Putting your blinders on, is not in the publics best interest. I always viewed them as protectors and brave like you, now I see them more as cowards hiding behind a badge, their cohorts and the corrupt system in which they get the benefit of the doubt and we are forced to prove our innocence. It used to be the other way around, we were innocent until proven guilty.
The scales of justice are weighted against us.
My son is a police officer...we've discussed this issue....as I said and will say, without blinders...
you can't down an entire group/race or whatever, for the misdoings of some....
some may be corrupt, however, they are not all corrupt...period.
Again, you're correct in my opinion. The cops are definitely NOT held to the same standards as civilians! They can shoot and kill someone, anyone, for anything and rarely get a slap on the wrist! You or I would go to prison or worse! They "investigate" themselves! What a sick joke. Feds are even worse! Cops lie, cheat, and steal more than so-called criminals. They manufacture evidence. They disgust me. They are a national gang of thugs. They ruin innocent lives on a daily basis! We, on the other hand are guilty until proven innocent. It can cost a fortune to prove innocence. I don't shed a tear when they get taken out! They disgust me!
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Thanks for the post. Below is the reason cops are out of control in this country...
"According to Prescott Police policy, officers involved in a fight not classified as a crime face consequences ranging from counseling by a supervisor to a 10-day suspension for conduct unbecoming an officer, Prescott Police Lt. Ken Morley said. For a misdemeanor fight, sanctions range from counseling by a supervisor to dismissal for a first offense. For a felony fight, repercussions range from a written reprimand to dismissal."
Are you kidding me?? Do you know how much the average person would pay in court fees alone?? The cops
had knives in a club that didn't permit knives and jumped a guy on camera.
Concerns about organized or collective law enforcement abuse of power, etc, are not new....
The Bastiat Collection - The Law (first published in 1850)
The law guilty of that very iniquity which it was its mission to punish! Truly, this is a serious fact, if it exists, and one to which I feel bound to call the attention of my fellow citizens. (pg 49)
If every man has the right of defending, even by force, his person, his liberty, and his property, a number of men have the right to combine together to extend, to organize a common force to provide regularly for this defense. (pg 50)
Collective right, then, has its principle, its reason for existing, its lawfulness, in individual right... Thus, as the force of an individual cannot lawfully touch the person, the liberty, or the property of another individual—for the same reason, the common force cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, the liberty, or the property of individuals or of classes.
...And if this be not true of every individual force, acting independently, how can it be true of the collective force, which is only the organized union of isolated forces?
Nothing, therefore, can be more evident than this: The law is the organization of the natural right of lawful defense; it is the substitution of collective for individual forces, for the purpose of acting in the sphere in which they have a right to act, of doing what they have a right to do, to secure persons, liberties, and properties, and to maintain each in its right, so as to cause justice to reign over all.
The law has been perverted through the influence of two very different causes—naked greed and misconceived philanthropy. (pg 52)
Your absolutely right, they should not be above the law, and anyone that is should be prosecuted...but gain, as in everything else, there are always some bad ones...police abuse has been going on since day one....but there are in fact, many more good cops then bad ones....
I just honestly feel the current system isn't working. There's nothing to protect citizens against corrupt police. I've been a victim before. It's hard enough to make ends meet on a day to day basis. It's near impossible to do it when your spending valuable money and wasting gas trying to prove your innocence. Meanwhile, when the case gets dismissed and its not only proven that your innocent, but that the officer criminally tried to set you up, all that happens to them is they get a slap on a wrist. Maybe a minor demotion.
Meanwhile it could ruin the life of the other person or at least set them back for months.
We need some independent organization designed to investigate and prosecute police corruption. Just like we have an organization designed to watch over the public. The whole internal "policing" system is a massive failure.
My son is a police officer...we've discussed this issue....as I said and will say, without blinders...
you can't down an entire group/race or whatever, for the misdoings of some....
some may be corrupt, however, they are not all corrupt...period.
I agree with you. I know some very good cops.
The problem is that nothing is being done to the bad cops. That's my argument. There's no protection from the bad police.
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