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Back when the US was going broke to pay for the revolutionary war, congress passed an act all vessels entering US waters could be boarded and searched for tax evasion. 200+ years later, the US Coast Guard, now part of DHS, does the same thing to American recreational boaters. Two choices when hailed by a USCG Cutter or the like, let them search, or get searched. Guns are always involved. Fourth Amendment rights don't even apply to houseboat docked in a marina. The USCG has the right to break in and tear apart your home; unheard of for RVs, homes, and cars.
Back when the US was going broke to pay for the revolutionary war, congress passed an act all vessels entering US waters could be boarded and searched for tax evasion. 200+ years later, the US Coast Guard, now part of DHS, does the same thing to American recreational boaters. Two choices when hailed by a USCG Cutter or the like, let them search, or get searched. Guns are always involved. Fourth Amendment rights don't even apply to houseboat docked in a marina. The USCG has the right to break in and tear apart your home; unheard of for RVs, homes, and cars.
Back when the US was going broke to pay for the revolutionary war, congress passed an act all vessels entering US waters could be boarded and searched for tax evasion. 200+ years later, the US Coast Guard, now part of DHS, does the same thing to American recreational boaters. Two choices when hailed by a USCG Cutter or the like, let them search, or get searched. Guns are always involved. Fourth Amendment rights don't even apply to houseboat docked in a marina. The USCG has the right to break in and tear apart your home; unheard of for RVs, homes, and cars.
I'm so confused. I thought based on this particular section of CD that everything pre-1900s was the best, en vouge, da beez kneez.
I'm not sure what the issue is here. During the Revolutionary War there was no 4th Amendment Rights. They were not ratified until 1791. The war ended in 1783.
Are you implying that if your on, or own a boat, your going to get searched and they'll tear apart your boat? We were buzzed by a USCG plane while crossing the Caribbean but all they did were make 2 low passes to read the transom I guess. I suppose to also see if we looked suspicious.
Also had a USCG safety inspection once while heading in and politely asked if they could follow us into the marina instead of having them board off shore and bang things up. They had no problem with that.
I kind of don't get what your implying.
Jim Crow is no more a part of the moderen democratic party as are the Ideals held by Lincoln in the modren republican party.
That is odd, because I am a registered Republican and am an advocate of civil rights and would have been an active abolitionist had I been around when the Republican Party had been founded.
So are and would have been practically every Republican that I know.
You have apparently been brainwashed by your Democratic brethren, who are rightfully ashamed by their party's racist past, and feel like all they can do is wrongly project their guilt and shame onto their political opponents who truly are the party of Lincoln and whom are the ones that secured abolition of slavery and civil rights in the face of Democratic Party opposition.
Back when the US was going broke to pay for the revolutionary war, congress passed an act all vessels entering US waters could be boarded and searched for tax evasion. 200+ years later, the US Coast Guard, now part of DHS, does the same thing to American recreational boaters. Two choices when hailed by a USCG Cutter or the like, let them search, or get searched. Guns are always involved. Fourth Amendment rights don't even apply to houseboat docked in a marina. The USCG has the right to break in and tear apart your home; unheard of for RVs, homes, and cars.
Recreation boaters[to me] are pontoon boats of partiers on Lake Havasu...Are you saying the USCG is searching recreational boaters as they return to American Waters? What is the difference if you flew overseas or took you automobile to mexico and were comming back across the border? Seems to me, a person returning from mexico could not expect that their motorhome would not be checked.
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Fourth Amendment rights don't even apply to houseboat docked in a marina.
Is this your assesment or a rulling from the Court?
Yep -pre 1900's(and through the early 1900's) was Jim Crow - which was supported by Democrats.
Free history lesson!
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Southern Democrats are members of the U.S. Democratic Party who reside in the American South. In the 19th century, they were the definitive pro-slavery wing of the party, opposed to both the anti-slavery Republicans (GOP) and the more liberal Northern Democrats.
Eventually "Redemption" was finalized in the Compromise of 1877 and the Redeemers gained control throughout the South. As the New Deal began to move Democrats as a whole to the left (at least economically), Southern Democrats largely stayed as conservative as they had always been, with some even breaking off to form farther right-wing splinters like the Dixiecrats. After the Civil Rights Movement successfully challenged the Jim Crow laws and other forms of institutionalized racism, and after the Democrats as a whole came to symbolize the mainstream left of the United States, the form, if not the content, of Southern Democratic politics began to change.
One last freebie!
Democrat and Republican means different things during different eras and different geographical areas.
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The P&OC forum is dominated by liberals and Democrats.
I don't think so. Tons more threads started by conservatives. It's pretty clear.
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