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Old 02-27-2013, 05:12 AM
 
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So, using your logic, "Bush's war on terror" was not his? After all, Democrats voted to go to war too, after 9-11.
Well, Bush has been out of office for 4-5 years now and we are still fighting the War on Terror, so isn't it Obama's War on Terror now?

If it isn't Obama's, since it started before he took office, consider that bin Laden called for American troops to leave Saudi Arabia in 1996. When America did not comply, bin Laden declared war on America in 1998, then started work on the WTC attack in 1999. So it isn't really Obama's war or Bush's war. It was Clinton whose actions in not removing the troops prompted the war, Clinton who was President when bin Laden actually publicly declared war, Clinton who was President when the terrorists planned and initiated preparations for the attack.

So it's really Clinton's War on Terror isn't it?
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well, Bush has been out of office for 4-5 years now and we are still fighting the War on Terror, so isn't it Obama's War on Terror now?

If it isn't Obama's, since it started before he took office, consider that bin Laden called for American troops to leave Saudi Arabia in 1996. When America did not comply, bin Laden declared war on America in 1998, then started work on the WTC attack in 1999. So it isn't really Obama's war or Bush's war. It was Clinton whose actions in not removing the troops prompted the war, Clinton who was President when bin Laden actually publicly declared war, Clinton who was President when the terrorists planned and initiated preparations for the attack.

So it's really Clinton's War on Terror isn't it?

The WTC was first bombed in 1993. H.W Bush and Reagan were meddling in it and stirred a hornets nest.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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The WTC was first bombed in 1993. H.W Bush and Reagan were meddling in it and stirred a hornets nest.
There were many terror attacks long before the 1993 WTC attack, starting with the Iran hostages during Jimmy's term.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:35 AM
 
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Well, Bush has been out of office for 4-5 years now and we are still fighting the War on Terror, so isn't it Obama's War on Terror now?

If it isn't Obama's, since it started before he took office, consider that bin Laden called for American troops to leave Saudi Arabia in 1996. When America did not comply, bin Laden declared war on America in 1998, then started work on the WTC attack in 1999. So it isn't really Obama's war or Bush's war. It was Clinton whose actions in not removing the troops prompted the war, Clinton who was President when bin Laden actually publicly declared war, Clinton who was President when the terrorists planned and initiated preparations for the attack.

So it's really Clinton's War on Terror isn't it?
I suppose you could say that.


Clinton Rips Fox on Osama Bin Laden - YouTube
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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The WTC was first bombed in 1993. H.W Bush and Reagan were meddling in it and stirred a hornets nest.
Uh, no. You can't just pick any terrorist incident in the past and try to blame a Republican for it. The 1993 incident was conduted by separate people with separate demands. You might as well go back to the attacks on pilgrims that prompted the Pope to start the Crusades if you're going to do that.

Sorry, but there is a direct chain of events and a direct cause and effect relationship between Clinton's actions as commander-in-chief and the 2001 bombing, which occurred as part of a declared war against America made while Clinton was President and declared because of Clinton's decisions.

bin laden made demands, and when they were not met he declared war, and then he attacked America. Bush had only been in office a matter of months when the explosions happened, in a documented chain of events that started 5 years earlier.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I think both sides in the forum like to make things up just too agitate the other side. The sequester is a good example it was voted on and signed and there is finger prints everywhere.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Last I checked, sequestration was a result of President Obama being concerned about federal spending and his demand for drastic cuts. Republicans want to spend, spend, spend and given their whims, there would be no need for these cuts that President Obama guarantees via sequestration.

Isn't that true, right wing drama queens?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Last I checked, sequestration was a result of President Obama being concerned about federal spending and his demand for drastic cuts. Republicans want to spend, spend, spend and given their whims, there would be no need for these cuts that President Obama guarantees via sequestration.

Isn't that true, right wing drama queens?
I'm good with that. As long as they happen I care less who gets the blame or credit.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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LOL!


How does if feel to be beat at your own game?
As a Conservative, the idea is to cut spending. Sure the majority of the GOP signed it. Why wouldn't they. Obama signed it, why??? He surely doesn't want to cut spending and he is the one squacking loud. The GOP is getting exactly what they wanted. A cut in additional Federal Government spending.

If you have not been paying attention, the GOP has been shouting cut spending at the top of their lungs. Well guess what. Obama has been trapped into doing just that!!

Hahahaha! How does it feel? LOL!
What are you talking about? The GOP wants spending cuts, but they don't want these spending cuts - these will be unnecessarily harmful for many of their constituents, too.

And if you want to say Obama is responsible for these cuts and you think they are good, then everyone on the right should be praising him.

The point is that both Republicans and Democrats own the sequester. They both agreed to it and voted it into law. Doesn't matter "who came up with it."

Adults take responsibility for their choices.

Kids whine to avoid their responsibility and work in Congress...or post on city-data.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Who gives a flying **** about the sequester? Absolutely no one except a few politicians in D.C. and media pukes making a story out of nothing.

And 99% of the population couldn't even tell you what the sequester is about. And no one is going to starve or end up in the poor house either. Politically it doesn't matter. Economically it doesn't matter.

These minor cuts in the rates of growth are actually a good thing. Whoever makes them happen should be praised, not villified. Less money in the Feds hands can only be beneficial.
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