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Unfortunately, humans are animals as well, and we behave very similarly as chimps actually, who also wage wars against each other based solely on the fact that some chimps belong to one group and other chimps to another.
This article talks about people who literally use to be nazis
2 people, actually. Günter Grass, who was all of 17 years when he was drafted into the Wehrmacht in 1944 - and I might point out that at that point in the war, when you were conscripted, you went or you were killed, conscientious objectors were never a Nazi thing and certainly not in 1944.
And professor Karl Bosl, who did use to be a Nazi. He also used to be living, but that was 20 years ago. He's only mentioned to make one of his students - Wolfgang Benz - look bad by association. (Benz was born in 1941. I take it we agree that doesn't qualify him as a Nazi?)
2 people, actually. Günter Grass, who was all of 17 years when he was drafted into the Wehrmacht in 1944 - and I might point out that at that point in the war, when you were conscripted, you went or you were killed, conscientious objectors were never a Nazi thing and certainly not in 1944.
And professor Karl Bosl, who did use to be a Nazi. He also used to be living, but that was 20 years ago. He's only mentioned to make one of his students - Wolfgang Benz - look bad by association. (Benz was born in 1941. I take it we agree that doesn't qualify him as a Nazi?)
as a jew anybody affiliated with nazis makes me uncomfortable. You should understand that
I don't believe in collective guilt. Although being German, I am more innocent than most Israelis of my age are
Yes, unfortunately many people make that mistake to confuse being anti-Israel with being anti-Judaism. And with many people it is not even a mistake, but a deliberate confusion...
Whether you believe in collective guilt or not, you cannot deny that it is certainly an underlying current in German society. A lot of effort has gone into creating it and I am very much under the impression that this form of propaganda has been very successful. Alas, younger generations seem to increasingly divorce themselves from it.
I can not say whether you, being German, are more innocent than most Israelis of your age. Germany is still a major exporter of weapons and weapons technology... At any rate, I don't think this is relevant in the scope of this discussion. A lot is done "Im Namen des Volkes."
I wholeheartedly agree with you that mistaking (accidentally or deliberately) these two perspectives is very common. It serves a purpose, I am sure.
And the reason is Jews. In fact many of them are frustrated they cannot achieve the same results in the US. Its very discouraging that they cannot cultivate the kind of hatred here.
THE GOOD NEWS is that American Jews--as individuals--have never been more secure, more accepted, more affluent, and less victimized by discrimination or anti-Semitism. The bad news is that American Jews--as a people--have never been in greater danger of disappearing through assimilation, intermarriage, and low birthrates. The even worse news is that our very success as individuals contributes to our vulnerability as a people. The even better news is that we can overcome this new threat to the continuity of American Jewish life and emerge with a more positive Judaism for the twenty-first century--a Judaism that is less dependent on our enemies for its continuity, and that rests more securely on the considerable, but largely untapped, strengths of our own heritage.
The religion has as its basis cleansing and purification by their enemies.
I guess that is why most people suck at chess. They can't see two moves ahead. Anti-Semitism is a tool of their own social control. In fact we are little different. Government always benefits from a common enemy. Its kosher wag the dog.
The first story takes place in 1812, when Napoleon was battling the czar for control of the Pale of Settlement (the western part of czarist Russia), where millions of Jews were forced to live in crowded poverty and under persecution and discrimination as second-class subjects. A victory for Napoleon held the promise of prosperity, first-class citizenship, freedom of movement, and an end to discrimination and persecution. A victory for the czar would keep the Jews impoverished and miserable. The great Hasidic rabbi Shneur Zalman--the founder of the Lubavitch dynasty--stood up in his synagogue on the first day of Rosh Hashanah to offer a prayer to God asking help for the leader whose victory would be good for the Jews. Everyone expected him to pray for Napoleon. But he prayed for the czar to defeat Napoleon. In explaining his counterintuitive choice, he said: "Should Bonaparte win, the wealth of the Jews will be increased and their [civic] position will be raised. At the same time their hearts will be estranged from our Heavenly Father. Should however our Czar Alexander win, the Jewish hearts will draw nearer to our Heavenly Father, though the poverty of Israel may become greater and his position lower."
I don't think it ever went away, it just went underground for a while.
Hagel the philosopher was an anti-Semite. So is the new sec.of defense with the same name.
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