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Old 03-19-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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sorry you didnt understand


what is a neo-con???
a neo-con is a former (blue dog( religious moderate democrat)) democrat (usually spend happy), who was not left enough for the now far left liberal party, which controls the democratic party


they '''usually''' are christian.....but not Catholic... more southern baptist or 'born again'

most neo-cons are SOCIALLY conservative (thats the religious part), and fiscally moderate (like lower taxes, but love to spend)



you do understand the is a difference within the parties....ie a liberal is left of a democrat, which is left of a republican, which is left of a conservative...but neo-cons kinda float inbetween democrat and conservative....
That's an "interesting" definition. My undergraduate degree is in political science and it's a new one on me.
Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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who doesnt believe in global warming/cooling....as it happend naturally from time to time
Bingo.

In fact, we almost lost all human life on the planet to cooling once upon a time.....

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Old 03-19-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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So the new pope is a Eco Friendly pope that believes in Global Warming. I guess the Neo Cons will be leaving the Church or trying to get him excommunicated.
You should click the guys link explaining what neocons are.

As of right now linking them to issues like global warming and the catholic church just tells me you think it's a cool sounding term to throw in even though it makes your post look idiotic.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That's an "interesting" definition. My undergraduate degree is in political science and it's a new one on me.
Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
wow....

your undergraduate degree points you in the direction of wiki.....


from your wiki site....

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The term "neoconservative" was popularized in the United States during 1973 by Socialist leader Michael Harrington, who used the term to define .......Daniel Patrick Moynihan (a democrat)
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The term neoconservative, which was used originally by a socialist to criticize the politics of Social Democrats, USA,[15] has since 1980 been used as a criticism against proponents of American modern liberalism who had become slightly more conservative
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Through the 1950s and early 1960s the future neoconservatives had endorsed the American Civil Rights Movement, racial integration, and Martin Luther King, Jr..[20] From the 1950s to the 1960s, there was general endorsement among liberals for military action to prevent a communist victory in Vietnam.[21]

Neoconservatism was initiated by the repudiation of coalition politics by the American New Left: Black Power,
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Neoconservatism... originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ('Scoop') Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.' [After the end of the Cold War]... many 'paleoliberals' drifted back to the Democratic center... Today's neocons are a shrunken remnant of the original broad neocon coalition. Nevertheless, the origins of their ideology on the left are still apparent. The fact that most of the younger neocons were never on the left is irrelevant; they are the intellectual (and, in the case of William Kristol and John Podhoretz, the literal) heirs of older ex-leftists.


so does you degree allow you to actually read... or just attack posters
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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who doesnt believe in global warming/cooling....as it happend naturally from time to time
He believes in man made global warming brainiac.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The Roman Catholic Church, and this pope in particular, is far to the left of Obama on many issues like foreign policy, the environment, immigration, capital punishment and support for the poor.

The GOP likes to trumpet Catholic teaching on abortion and same-sex marriage, but they completely ignore teachings in other areas. There are many, many pastoral letters from US bishops on these subjects that never discussed.

The Papacy is a huge bully pulpit. I suspect Pope Francis will continue to take up these issues and make life awkward for a lot of politicians on both side of the aisle. He’s only getting started.
^^This.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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The church has nothing to do with politics. I am glad that he is South American, as 45% of all Catholics are from South and Central America.

If the Pope believes in "global warming", that just means he is just as gullible as you. We do know, however, that the Pope is intelligent, which shows that some intelligent people can be fooled as well. Most intelligent people, of course, did not buy into the global warming scam. Fear not! All those who believed in global warming will deny ever "really" believing it in a few years, as the leftists are masters of revisionist history and short memories. They will probably say in a few years that "global warming" was a crazy conservative plot!
Ahh I would read my post and see who is the stupid one. The Catholic church has nothing to do with politics? If you believe that I have a bridge in San Francisco, New York and some swamp land in Florida I think you would love.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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So the new pope is a Eco Friendly pope that believes in Global Warming. I guess the Neo Cons will be leaving the Church or trying to get him excommunicated.
Why?

He doesn't make policy.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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So the new pope is a Eco Friendly pope that believes in Global Warming. I guess the Neo Cons will be leaving the Church or trying to get him excommunicated.
Fortunately, a lot of Catholics are libs, at least everywhere except here in the U.S., where the Catholic Church went evangelical, like the good copycats American Catholics turned out to be.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Fortunately, a lot of Catholics are libs, at least everywhere except here in the U.S., where the Catholic Church went evangelical, like the good copycats American Catholics turned out to be.
Lots of Catholics in the U.S. are liberal. The new evangelical Catholic is a new phenomena (and a bad one) in the U.S. But if you want to start talking about conservative Catholics I suggest you start with Africa and South America, with the exception of where liberation theology has taken hold.
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