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Old 03-26-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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I don't get the logic here. Whatever the OPs motives how are facts racist?
It is how those facts are used, and the agenda behind it. I can talk about crime issues within the Black community with other persons on this forum because it is being discussed in the context of which segment of the Black population is doing the crime, who is getting murdered the most, the causes, the solution, the history behind many things. In this thread, it is being presented as "Blacks are a threat to society, avoid them all".

It isn't only what you say, but how you say it. If you come at me in an attitude of arrogance and callousness, I'm not going to want to discuss anything with you. I'm going to question your motives. There is a difference between tough love and being arrogant.

 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: texas
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An even more important question is this: Why did he make a reference to apes when he was talking about Blacks?

It didnt slip by me...thats way I posted.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Deflection. Excuses. Sad..sad..sad... Why dont use ask the CDC why they posted such data? Or why dont you do something to help rectify that stat of violence. Instead point and and blame others..You'll accomplish nothing that way!
Presenting the situation the way you did won't help either. All it will do is alienate people. You never said who most of the homicide victims are. I never denied that there are alot of murders committed by Black men. I also mention that most of the victims are Black, and that most of the Black population has nothing to do with these crimes. You seem to care very little about who the homicide victims are, but you care alot about who is committing those homicides. By failing to bring up the fact that Blacks get murdered the most, it tells me you don't care that Blacks get killed more than anyone else, but that you only care that Blacks are committing alot of murders. Did you ever consider which segment of the Black population commits the murders? It isn't Theo Huxtable that's for sure.

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Old 03-26-2013, 03:10 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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CDC statistics.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/dea...10_release.pdf

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CDC:Victims of homicide 10times more likely to be shot by black person than a white
Oddly enough, no main stream media outlet, other than right wing propaganda websites are reporting this as being factual. Which to me means that someone who reviewed the CDC stats twisted or misinterpreted the CDC findings.

I browsed over the CDC stats, and it does not make the claim the OP linked a story to. Maybe the writers of this story was going by this example taken out of context:
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Number of deaths and death rates by Hispanic origin,
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a specific group of people.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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I've noticed something else. I don't see you bringing forth any solutions. Or better yet, you haven't discussed the causes of violence among poor Blacks living in the inner city. I bring that up because that is where alot of murders take place.



Discipline and upbringing. There , thats your solution. 70 plus percentage born out of wedlock. It's that simple.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The story is primarily about suicides. Suicides by white people, I'm thinking.

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While there is some discussion in the Post article about gun deaths by homicide, the story focuses primarily on guns used in cases of suicide. The paper's underlying themes seem clear: More guns equals more suicides, and, if we just had fewer guns we'd have fewer suicides.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Yeah. I couldn't help but to notice that too.
I think we both know why, but said person won't come out and say it.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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It didnt slip by me...thats way I posted.
I know this. I wanted you to think about this. Further more, I should have asked that person himself why he said what he said.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:17 PM
 
Location: texas
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The CDC is a credible organization, I am just the messenger. If facts hurt you you don't have to listen to them.

Where the plan johnny?
 
Old 03-26-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: texas
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And just think how many more gun owners are white instead of black! If blacks were as populous in this nation and had the same amount of firearms as whites , victims of homicides would be 100 times more likely to be shot by blacks. And you liberals swine want to come after law abiding citizens. You people disgust me!
where's the plan johnny?
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