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I am the offspring of a person who ran a failed business because someone suggested to that person to start a business.
It's not that simple to just start a business. You must not only have an idea, but you must have capital, access to expertise, and knowledge of the market. Many businesses fail out there because they haven't done the research on how to make their business thrive.
All the different topics that relate to business:
minimum wage
union greed
corporate greed
healthcare
government regulations
...An opinion on these topics is supposed to be defended without having to resort to tell someone to start their own business.
If you have to tell someone to start their own business to make a point then all you're saying is you think you are arguing with someone that doesn't have knowledge on how to run a business.
Capital aside it's simple to start one. Running one successfully is another story hence the reason for the comment "go start your own business" when people that have no clue want to dictate how someone else should run their business.
I am the offspring of a person who ran a failed business because someone suggested to that person to start a business.
It's not that simple to just start a business. You must not only have an idea, but you must have capital, access to expertise, and knowledge of the market. Many businesses fail out there because they haven't done the research on how to make their business thrive.
All the different topics that relate to business:
minimum wage
union greed
corporate greed
healthcare
government regulations
...An opinion on these topics is supposed to be defended without having to resort to tell someone to start their own business.
If you have to tell someone to start their own business to make a point then all you're saying is you think you are arguing with someone that doesn't have knowledge on how to run a business.
Starting a business is high risk and requires start up capital. If someone is not doing well financially, I would not reccommend starting a business.
One needs to take things one step at a time-
move to where the jobs are
get an education in an area of high demand that pays well (healthcare, engineering)
consider a trade school for electrician, plumbing, specialized welding (oil fields have demand)
Once a small nest of capital has been acquired, that is the time to consider a business in area in which you are an "expert".
PS- lay off the drugs, booze, and don't get divorced. Those are all wealth killers.
It's an attempt at an argument from authority, and I say attempt because usually resorting to this type of argument means that there are no facts to support their point of view and it's wrong. It's a way of "winning" by championing the only way of proving the argument wrong is to leave and start a successful business, then come back many years later when most people will have forgotten the exchange. It can also troll the opponent, because starting a small business when unprepared and to win an argument on the internet is a great way to be an idiot. It's a fragrant fallacy.
Most of the time it comes across like this brain dead woman. I'm not a fan of Lawrence O'Donnell, but this woman comes in charged up she is taxed too much and hates socialism citing how they own a small business...but when asked how much their taxes have gone up she states she has no idea what they pay.
Starting a business is high risk and requires start up capital.
It doesn't necessarily have to be if you want to do it part time or even full time for some ventures, part of the trouble is everyone wants to open a restaurant.
I mentioned it in the other thread in context to what was being discussed. The discussion was revolving around someone that was going to come in and save or make a company hundreds of thousands of dollars for years.
That simply doesn't just happen either. Someone so smart that they are able to come up with such new discoveries year in and year out would have to be smart enough to do it for themselves.
It is also a way to simply dismiss away a foolish idea. Such as how a business should be happy to pay an employee compensation equal to what they make for the company.
I am the offspring of a person who ran a failed business because someone suggested to that person to start a business.
It's not that simple to just start a business. You must not only have an idea, but you must have capital, access to expertise, and knowledge of the market. Many businesses fail out there because they haven't done the research on how to make their business thrive.
All the different topics that relate to business:
minimum wage
union greed
corporate greed
healthcare
government regulations
...An opinion on these topics is supposed to be defended without having to resort to tell someone to start their own business.
If you have to tell someone to start their own business to make a point then all you're saying is you think you are arguing with someone that doesn't have knowledge on how to run a business.
You are quite right, starting and succeeding with a business is very difficult. It requires a great deal of hard work, intelligence, a willingness to take risk and often invest your life savings...and a degree of luck. Something like 90% of businesses fail, and the ones that succeed often take years of toil and sacrifice before they really "take off" and start making money for the owners. Most that do demand nearly all the owner's time, with no vacations or time off for years.
The issue all the little whiners that put in minimal effort, no risk and feel entitled to a job. And who demand a "bigger share" for the little effort involved in showing up for work (when they feel like it). If the company goes under, well, at worst they are looking for a job. While the owners have often lost their life's work and savings. How many threads are their saying employers shouldn't "discriminate" against the "long term unemployed" (aka those that milk long term UE to the very limit)? That they deserve employer provided health care, vacation, medical leave, to take off whenever they want to raise kids or see their little school plays? What do you want to bet those business owners didn't get that luxury?
So...if you want to whine that your employer is unfair or cruel because he expects you to show up for work on time and put in a fair days work...sure, start your own business. Set up whatever rules you want, and give your employees anything they ask for. COme on back in a few years and tell us all about it.
Because people on these boards say that business owners salaries should be limited to a certain amount, and they should be forced to provide health care and certain wages, and they should not be allowed to lay people off, etc. etc etc.
When those people have never been up at 3 am holding sick kids and working on inventory that has to go out the next day. Or spending their vacation in a foreign country dealing with credit card chargebacks from a crazy customer. Or had a stolen payment reversed and now you've lost that inventory and the payment.
Those people didn't spend a couple of years working 60-70 hours a week putting almost all of the proceeds back into the business so they one day it would be successful.
So many people on these boards skip all of that and jump right to where the business owner is successful and start screaming about how the owners are greedy and "owe" them something.
It doesn't necessarily have to be if you want to do it part time or even full time for some ventures, part of the trouble is everyone wants to open a restaurant.
If you haven't done research, you are entering at a very high risk.
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