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Oh look at you excusing Obama for filing a suit against Citibank because they using red ink to delineate inner-city neighborhoods considered too risky for lending. And then act like he had nothing to do with the housing crash. But of course we know you would lend to people who you knew couldn't afford to pay you back right. I sure as hell wouldn't.
Now post to defend Obama.
Haha, you still haven't googled what redlining means to better educate yourself??
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There, you have officially learned something new today.
Can certain NPs "fill those lack of knowledge gaps" through experience and "on the job" learning. Absolutely.
Sure can. If the patient has runny nose or a fever or needs some OJ or an IV.
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The real issue is how long will it take "one the job" to acquire that knowledge that's taught in med school and residency training. The other issue is some mid levels may not fully fill those missing gaps no matter how long they are out in practice.
You are deluded.
You can "acquire" any "on the job knowledge" you might get from working years on the job: doesn't mean you are anywhere close to doing what a board certified physician can do and knows and has done time after time after time as opposed to "looking at it, calling it (ain't your arse on the line, is it) and assisting".
How do you think an NP will do with separating twin fetus' that are sharing one sac?
Get the nurse who saw me perform this surgery 5 times in the past 3 years !!!! She's good! I have a tee time in 20 minutes.
Are you a nurse? I have no idea why else you'd think a masters in nursing is anything CLOSE to being a board certified physician.
I have nothing against NPs. I know quite a few of them. Many of them, especially the experienced ones are quite good at what they do. But many people without the full medical school training experience will always have "gaps" in their medical knowledge. What happens with those gaps. It causes them to order more tests and consult more specialist for further workup. Exactly what we are trying not to do when saving health care dollars.
Can certain NPs "fill those lack of knowledge gaps" through experience and "on the job" learning. Absolutely.
The real issue is how long will it take "one the job" to acquire that knowledge that's taught in med school and residency training. The other issue is some mid levels may not fully fill those missing gaps no matter how long they are out in practice.
You, too, seem to have no clue what an NP really is. Off the top of your head, what do you think an NP's educational preparation is?
We get it Katiana, you know what a NP is.... <applause> Damn you are droning on the same thing over and over... so what the hell is you're point?
No, neither one of you (you or aneftp) knows how a nurse practitioner is educated. You haven't told us, b/c you don't know! The point is the topic of the thread is an alleged "doctor shortage". NPs are a part of the solution.
and Katiana knows <applause> <applause> stand ovation <applause> Drum roll as I ask again.... and you're point is??
Nurse practitioners are the ones to fill the void for the potential doctor shortage, meaning it takes less schooling for a nurse practitioner than it does for a doctor.
and Katiana knows <applause> <applause> stand ovation <applause> Drum roll as I ask again.... and you're point is??
I must really be getting under your skin! LOL! Tell us what an NP is and how s/he is educated. That's the point. You're making fun of me to deflect away from the fact that you don't know.
I must really be getting under your skin! LOL! Tell us what an NP is and how s/he is educated. That's the point. You're making fun of me to deflect away from the fact that you don't know.
lol, you changed you're post. under my skin for what? You got to be kidding. You liberals are a hoot. And can't you read. Here is my previous post. I asked if I got a star on my forehead or flunked.
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RN school then on for additional education, I think 2 more years. Do I get a star on my forehead? Or did I flunk this test?
Sure can. If the patient has runny nose or a fever or needs some OJ or an IV.
You are deluded.
You can "acquire" any "on the job knowledge" you might get from working years on the job: doesn't mean you are anywhere close to doing what a board certified physician can do and knows and has done time after time after time as opposed to "looking at it, calling it (ain't your arse on the line, is it) and assisting".
How do you think an NP will do with separating twin fetus' that are sharing one sac?
Get the nurse who saw me perform this surgery 5 times in the past 3 years !!!! She's good! I have a tee time in 20 minutes.
Are you a nurse? I have no idea why else you'd think a masters in nursing is anything CLOSE to being a board certified physician.
I am a physician. I never said a Masters in Nursing is anything close to a Physician's training. I certainly know the difference.
I am surprise you quoted me (please read my post). I know exactly what I am staying. I stated there will be gaps of medical knowledge in NPs data base. It's hard to fill those gaps, some may be able to fill those gaps through years of on the job. But there will still be many who never fill that gap. There is a big push in the field of nursing, especially pushing DNP (doctor of nursing) by 2015. We all know what the ultimate agenda is. It's eventually to push indepedent practice along with indepedent and same billing/pay as physicians. (the usual slogan "equal work/equal pay" lobbying effort, yet they will fail to mention "equal education").
And we were referring to primary care, not specialities in the field of medicine as you implied (seperating twins). There is a reason (especially surgical specialities) take an additional 2-3 more years of training (fellowship) beyond the 3-5 years of residency in addition to the 4 years of med school.
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