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Old 04-19-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: texas
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Exactly. And I would ask them how having an ID would deprive a person from voting if they are a legal US citizen ?
how would producing an ID and background check deprive a person from purchasing a firearm?
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Explain the minorities that were elected in South Carolina with their voter id laws
To do so would be to chase a red herring. Only an idiot would hallucinate that voter suppression is about eliminating all minority (or liberal) victories. The objective is to affect a marginal change. If it can change the results in one district out of ten... then it has been crushingly effective.

This is why Trey Gowdy's argument is so stupid. South Carolina has IIRC 9 Congressmen. Gowdy crows that three of them are African American. If voter suppression limited them to three from the four they might have had without it, that's a 25% loss for blacks/liberals/democrats.

That's
how you measure the effect of voter suppression. Not Gowdy's context free, meaningless metric.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I guess that lefties would consider bus fare to get to the polls a "poll tax".
Only if it was required by law.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:24 AM
 
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Only the clueless would claim that any law for all is magically not racist.
Then define how it is racist to have a law that all people, of every color, have to obey. Good luck kid.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:25 AM
 
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Only if it was required by law.
A drivers license in required to drive. How racist is that lefty?
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:28 AM
 
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To do so would be to chase a red herring. Only an idiot would hallucinate that voter suppression is about eliminating all minority (or liberal) victories. The objective is to affect a marginal change. If it can change the results in one district out of ten... then it has been crushingly effective.

This is why Trey Gowdy's argument is so stupid. South Carolina has IIRC 9 Congressmen. Gowdy crows that three of them are African American. If voter suppression limited them to three from the four they might have had without it, that's a 25% loss for blacks/liberals/democrats.

That's
how you measure the effect of voter suppression. Not Gowdy's context free, meaningless metric.
Only a damnable idiot would need two paragraphs to dodge the question.

Define how a law for all is racist.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:36 AM
 
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Only a damnable idiot would need two paragraphs to dodge the question.

Define how a law for all is racist.
Minorities are less likely to have the means to get to a photo ID center. The closest one to my home is 13 miles away and it is not on a bus line.My state House leader made it perfectly clear what the proposed voter ID law was about.
Mike Turzai: Voter ID helps GOP win state - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:15 AM
 
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Minorities are less likely to have the means to get to a photo ID center. The closest one to my home is 13 miles away and it is not on a bus line.My state House leader made it perfectly clear what the proposed voter ID law was about.
Mike Turzai: Voter ID helps GOP win state - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
Oh bullchit. The law is for everyone. Are you going to tell me that those poor, poor disenfranchised minorities have no damn state ID's of any kind? Let's stop this silliness already. They have some form of ID. Please.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Sorry That dog won't hunt. You apparently have never heard of an Absentee ballot. Ask anyone who served in the military.

Students are NOT considered full time residents. If they were, they would be paying in state tuition.

What state is their driver's license issued from?

The reason some colleges are cracking is because some students have (or have tried) voted in BOTH places.
The reason Republicans would like to make it more difficult for college students to vote is that their demographic tends to lean left.

Isn't that really the problem you would like to address?
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:00 AM
 
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This is true no matter whether you are voting absentee or in person.


But you don't register to vote by state. You register by precinct.


What voter fraud?
"But you don't register to vote by state. You register by precinct."

You can be as juvenile as you want, by yourself.

"You can't reason with an UN reasonable person"

"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne
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