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Old 04-27-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Great thoughts except for one sticky little problem. Every time we remove an "evil dictator" what he's replaced with ends up to be worse.
Name one replaced dictator that's turned out well for us or for the people of said country?
Exactly. We should have learned this by what's happened with Iraq and Egypt.

Or go back and look at Iran, the liberals wanted the Shah taken out and he was and freedom ended there.

The last thing anyone should gullibly believe is that these countries have anything like a real group pushing for democracy. They are Muslims, they do not believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or any kind of freedom, it's one dictator being replaced by a worse dictator.

 
Old 04-27-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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The last thing anyone should gullibly believe is that these countries have anything like a real group pushing for democracy. They are Muslims, they do not believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or any kind of freedom, it's one dictator being replaced by a worse dictator.
Another example of the inconsistency of the left; first they attack conservatives for claiming muslims are subhumans for all of the terrorism they commit, then they state that the US should not be in mideast wars because muslims are "somehow different" than other humans, and can't understand/don't want democracy.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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Another example of the inconsistency of the left; first they attack conservatives for claiming muslims are subhumans for all of the terrorism they commit, then they state that the US should not be in mideast wars because muslims are "somehow different" than other humans, and can't understand/don't want democracy.
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I'm not from the left. Muslims are somehow different -- by definition they do not believe in democracy, they believe in a theocracy. This ideology is not about freedom at all.

There is no good reason for our best Americans to be dying over there for these people and their Islamic states. They hate us, they hate our freedoms, they will only accuse of killing women and children in order to free them, and come here as refugees and plot to kill as many of us and our children as they can.

We're not the policeman of the world.

Another thing -- you can be pretty sure if some rebel group here was doing to Obama what the Islamic rebels are doing to Assad in Syria, Obama would use chemicals and WMD against the American rebels. We are no more free to revolt and overthrow our government than are the Syrian rebels.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Is white phosphorous listed as a chemical weapon under the Chemical Weapons Conventions? No, so why are you mentioning it?
because it's a chemical weapon, same as depleted uranium, Agent Orange, and God only knows what virus's are in the works.
Who cares what is listed on a treaty that we never fulfilled anyway.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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US has said that would be a game changes. We shall see if US takes action
I doubt it's a game changer at all. Obama is talking sh*t. I voted for him and all, but he never should have opened his mouth about this issue. Seriously, what's he going to propose in Syria -- backing radical fundamentalist Muslims instead? We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Assad is a horrible, horrible leader. But he just might be the better of two options over there.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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Iran is a beautiful, modern country with so many historical sites and artifacts. I truly hope you will take a few minutes to view this video and get a glimpse of the people that are being demonized. I also hope we don't do to them what we did to Libya, and what we are doing to Syria.
There are many videos of modern Iran and it's people, you will see muslims aren't so scary afterall. Israel offered to pay Jews to leave Iran, they declined the offer.



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Old 04-27-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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I doubt it's a game changer at all. Obama is talking sh*t. I voted for him and all, but he never should have opened his mouth about this issue. Seriously, what's he going to propose in Syria -- backing radical fundamentalist Muslims instead? We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Assad is a horrible, horrible leader. But he just might be the better of two options over there.
The people of Syria stand by their gov't and Assad, the rebels are foreigners sent in to destabilize this country, and institute regime change. The purpose of the so called embassy in Libya was gun trafficking into Syria via Turkey. That is why all the secrecy on BenGhazi
 
Old 04-27-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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Sounds like a bunch of murderers on both sides. Let's take this opportunity to mind our own ****ing business for a change.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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because it's a chemical weapon, same as depleted uranium, Agent Orange, and God only knows what virus's are in the works. Who cares what is listed on a treaty that we never fulfilled anyway.
So I guess to the far left, international law and treaties mean nothing - the rules/laws are just whatever they feel is applicable

But if you are going to complain about the use of something as relatively harmless as white phosphorous, are you complaining about the far more dangerous illegal iranian nuclear weapons program?

Funny how so many of the same far leftists rail against the US for using them - but want to give a pass to the iranians for their program.

Apparently, it is not a principled stand against WMD - it's whatever is anti-Western / anti-American / anti-Israel that be screamed about, even if the hilarious inconsistencies are obvious to all.
 
Old 04-27-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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Iran is a beautiful, modern country with so many historical sites and artifacts. I truly hope you will take a few minutes to view this video and get a glimpse of the people that are being demonized. I also hope we don't do to them what we did to Libya, and what we are doing to Syria. There are many videos of modern Iran and it's people, you will see muslims aren't so scary afterall. Israel offered to pay Jews to leave Iran, they declined the offer.
You are way, way out of your league, kid - there are those of us here who have LIVED in iran, so don't waste our time with this propagandist, regime-protecting BS.

Iran has 70 million people, many of whom are quite decent, but the regime, the basij, the IRG, and its protectors there and abroad are some of the worst scum on the face of this earth, and need to be killed.

As for the ludicrous canard about how "wonderful" the jews have it there, I can tell you for a fact if most of them were allowed to leave and speak without a gun to their head - their true opinion would be quite different.

A major attack on iran is long, long overdue - that regime must be destroyed, and can only be done so by external military means.
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