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Old 05-04-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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UNIVERSAL RETORT

My rights and liberties come from my Creator, Mr Politician. Your delegated power is to help secure them, not legislate them away. If you won’t do your job, please RESIGN, immediately.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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just curious...who do you petition for redress when your rights and liberties have been legislated away or gone unsecured by "mr poltician", your creator?...good luck with that.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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just curious...who do you petition for redress when your rights and liberties have been legislated away or gone unsecured by "mr poltician", your creator?...good luck with
that.
Which rights or liberties do you refer?
If one has consented to their surrender, one has no grounds to object.

Coincidentally, government is quite careful not to trespass upon the rights and liberties of the sovereign people.
But those poor subject citizens - they're s.o.l.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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hate to tip you over jet...but you have no 'rights'...what you have are some liberties that have been granted to you by the powers to be, call it the constitution...when, and if the day ever comes, that those liberties are deemed problematic to said powers, your 'rights' will cease to exist. congress has been chipping away at your 'rights' for years

ya didn't answer my question either
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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hate to tip you over jet...but you have no 'rights'...what you have are some liberties that have been granted to you by the powers to be, call it the constitution...when, and if the day ever comes, that those liberties are deemed problematic to said powers, your 'rights' will cease to exist. congress has been chipping away at your 'rights' for years

ya didn't answer my question either

The Constitution does not grant us our rights. It is the chains on the government to prevent them from taking our rights and then giving them back to us for a fee as a privilege.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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Who's version of rights? Every person, faith (maker), country, region, and continent have different opinions of what is a right.

At no point in recorded history has a "maker" ever come down and stated a country is not securing the rights they have given their creation and replaced those with people who will. Even now you can find an abuse of about every human right imaginable across the globe, that happen every day without intervention by a "maker." Rights are principals of freedom, and they can be taken away by human means. If they couldn't then prisons couldn't exist since they function by isolating people from society and taking away their freedoms.

What rights are "being legislated away" anyways? Being so vague the only "rights" I can think of where people are complaining are ones that require tin foil headgear to believe. You would have more people interested in perpetual motion machines then those crazy rights definitions.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:15 AM
 
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...talk to some of the law abiding, hard working, american citizens of japanese descent about 1942....what happened to them and their 'rights' under the constitution...
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, government has two jobs:
1. Secure rights, and
2. Govern those who consent.

Anything more is suspect.
Anything less is unacceptable.

My rights and liberties come from my Creator, Mr Politician. Your delegated power is to help secure them, not legislate them away. If you won’t do your job, please RESIGN, immediately.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in the Southwest...
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Founding legal principal/precedent for the American Revolution and Declaration of Independence:

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The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one: and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind, who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions ~ John Locke 1690
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Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience. ~ John Locke 1690
Everything beyond that is just different shades of tyranny...
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in the Southwest...
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BTW, political apparatchiks like 0bama would still be community organizers if people like these didn't support tyrannical destruction of Our Rights for their benefit:


Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube


Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube


Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids - YouTube

EOT
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