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Old 04-29-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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Have a hard time believing Jesus was a liberal when not one of his disciples was a woman.
There were several women among his close followers.

 
Old 04-29-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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The sermon started out great today. The pastor was talking about how all living things, and even non-living things such as mountains, sing praises to the Lord just by being what they are meant to be.

Then he turned an excellent sermon into a political rant.

He started to say that humans are responsible for global warming, when this is still a controversial topic.

He mentioned Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and even conceded that global warming has occurred in periods before fossil fuels, as Gore states in his book.

He said that Gore was mainly concerned with our own civilization - not the Earth - which will regenerate on its own - which makes it rather clear that Gore just wants to sell books and expand control and regulation, which is the wet dream of all liberals.

The pastor even mentioned Earth Day.

I thought that was the final straw, until he gave the benediction and said these words:

"Think globally, and live liberally".

I love this story, makes me happy to be a lifelong Catholic. You'll never hear baloney like that at my church.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 07:20 AM
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I love this story, makes me happy to be a lifelong Catholic. You'll never hear baloney like that at my church.
“For me [Francis of Assisi] is the man of poverty, the man of peace, the man who loves and protects creation; these days we do not have a very good relationship with creation, do we?” - Pope Francis I

“It means protecting all creation, the beauty of the created world, as the Book of Genesis tells us and as Saint Francis of Assisi showed us. It means respecting each of God's creatures and respecting the environment in which we live. … In the end, everything has been entrusted to our protection, and all of us are responsible for it. Be protectors of God's gifts!” - Pope Francis I

"Oh, how I would like a poor Church, and for the poor." - Pope Francis I

“Our social security pays up until a certain amount of treatment and then says ‘may God help you.’ The elderly are not taken care of as they should be, but rather they are treated as discarded material.” - Pope Francis I

I'm not a Catholic, but it was nice to find a liberal at the head of the Catholic church. It seems that the only issues for which the Pope is not a liberal is abortion and homosexuality. (But that's a natural diversion for a religion that values celibacy, and places the celibate in a superior position of advising couples having troubles in their marriage.)

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Old 04-29-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Find a new church. I wouldn't sit another five minutes in his church.

It isn't easy to find a good church. Far too many preach "Christian Lite," and too many allow faulty exegisis in their Sunday Schools, or the Pastor himself does not properly interpret the text.

We have left several churches, fed up with, "Well, to me it means..." Scripture is not open to anybody's interpretation; rather, it is for us to do the necessary study, and reading in context, to understand it, not to draw some meaning that isn't there, based on some feeling we had when we read it. Ever hear someone say something like, "It spoke to me ...!" If you hear that in your church, run the other direction.

To many churches today are afraid of the truth. They don't want to offend anyone. The Church is no longer The Church. It has become a social club, and Sunday morning is a social event.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If humans aren't responsible for global warming, then what is?

Well, Humans weren't here the first five times the Earth's climate changed, so why would this be any different.

Maybe we should try to figgure out what triggered the Ice Age and repeat whatever did that eh?
 
Old 04-29-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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Well, Humans weren't here the first five times the Earth's climate changed, so why would this be any different.

Maybe we should try to figgure out what triggered the Ice Age and repeat whatever did that eh?
I personally think it's sun cycles that we have no idea about. I recently read that the Sun's output has been very high for the last 15 years but scientists seem to think it's cycling down now and their estimates have it reaching it's lowest output ever recorded by 2022. They still don't understand how that will affect us but what if it continues down for another 50 or 100 years? 100 years from now most of the North American Continent could be under a mile of ice (which is typical). The cycle is 100,000 years of ice and 10,000 years of warmth. Ice core samples prove that we have had more than 10,000 years in this current warm time.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Please explain how man caused the Ice Age then its decline.
You explain how the earth was covered to a level of more than five miles with water and it receded in a few months. Explain how big fish puked up live men. Explain how two naked teens in a garden with a snake determined the eternal destiny of mankind and explain how seas parted long enough for the good guys to get through then closed up on the evil pricks. Explain how walls fell at the sound of a trumpet and a woman who really didn't have much going on was turned into a pillar of salt in an instant. Explain walking on water, turning water into wine, healing by touching, raising from the dead, virgin birth, resurrection, feeding 5000 plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves...........will you please give us a break??

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Old 04-29-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Drive south to Orange County. Surround yourself with all the wealthy South County Republicans who think Obama is a socialist and (because of that fact alone) Jesus is coming back any second now. Problem solved.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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It's amazing that ultra-right-wing Old Testament Christianity and hippie liberal New Testament Christianity can coexist in the same religion.
It doesn't.

The two types of Christians are distinct breeds claiming the same religion, but if you were an alien from another planet visiting earth to study its religions, you'd surely believe they were separate religions.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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If humans aren't responsible for global warming, then what is?
Are you serious? What do you think was responsible for changes in climate before there were humans? I know, it was caused by rich dinosaurs who were exploiting the poor un-evolved species.
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