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Old 04-30-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Another story to show how the reactions can be totally different.

This past weekend, I was at a friend's house for a crawfish boil. Out of the 20 adults there, I knew 5. The rest were people I was meeting for the first time. When I went to get a 3rd helping of food, I bent over the container of crawfish and my shirt rode up my back revealing my pistol. There was no running. The women didn't grab their kids and hide. No one screamed. It sparked questions and statements like "What kind of pistol is that?", "What do you call that type of holster?", "Is it comfortable?" and "I gotta get me one of those!"
It depends on your location. If you live in the northeastern nanny States or the Socialist Republic of California where they are terrified of their own shadow, you can expect this type of reaction:



If you live just about anywhere else in the nation, you can expect this type of reaction:

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Old 04-30-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I think the mother in the video has the right to the enjoyment of her home, her kids the right to play in the yard with a stranger with a gun and a knife "patrolling".
So you believe that the police should never leave the station, unless called?

Isn't that what a police officer is? A stranger with a gun and a knife "patrolling"?

Yep, that's what it is.

Just another little diamond of hypocrisy from that post. Astounding.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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So you believe that the police should never leave the station, unless called?

Isn't that what a police officer is? A stranger with a gun and a knife "patrolling"?

Yep, that's what it is.

Just another little diamond of hypocrisy from that post. Astounding.
That kid could be hired as "security" and so long as he had a fancy shirt with a fake badge no one would say anything.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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So you believe that the police should never leave the station, unless called?

Isn't that what a police officer is? A stranger with a gun and a knife "patrolling"?

Yep, that's what it is.

Just another little diamond of hypocrisy from that post. Astounding.
The Supreme Court held that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. See: Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005)
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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You can't make him stop under the laws of the area in which he lives.

However, one would wonder why he doesn't stop, since he knows he is disturbing the neighbors. The mother has every right for her children to play in the yard without this teen, his gun and his knife, looking on.

It's their neighborhood too and I think the neighbors have every right to determine whether or not an apparently untrained (in law enforcement) 19 year old is providing security services.
If you listen carefully to the video it says that many of his neighbors do not have a problem with him.

Wonder wny the reporter did not interview any of them?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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.........Walking around with a gun and knife to pick up trash, similar to stockpiling weapons to one day fight government, are signs of mental instability-- and perhaps-- further evaluation of their fitness to own deadly weapons.
Really?

In the area where we have a cabin when my boys go around the neighborhood picking up trash at least one of us is armed often it's one of the boys carrying. We have a lot of bears and moose in the area and depending on the time of year the bears and moose can be a little cranky. Our neighbors invite the boys in for cool or hot drinks firearms and all.

So using your thinking my boys are mentaly instable?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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No. You can do lots of things I don't like that aren't signs of mental instability. Having the delusion of grandeur that you're so important that you need a gun, knife, fatigues, etc to pick up garbage is...
Still waiting to see your degree that qualifies you to say what constitutes a sign of mental instability and what doesn't......

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You can't make him stop under the laws of the area in which he lives.

However, one would wonder why he doesn't stop, since he knows he is disturbing the neighbors. The mother has every right for her children to play in the yard without this teen, his gun and his knife, looking on.
No she doesn't.... it's really as simple as that. Where does it say that she has this right in the law books?

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It's their neighborhood too and I think the neighbors have every right to determine whether or not an apparently untrained (in law enforcement) 19 year old is providing security services.
You are correct, they do have this right under the first amendment. They are free to utilize the legal system and petition their local government to put a stop to it. Until then, they'll just have to deal with it.

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And no. There's always been a line between what weapons a private citizen can own and what weapons they can't. I believe the AR-15 should be in the can't category.
I'll ask you the same thing I ask everyone who says this...... what is it about the AR15 specifically that should disqualify it from civilian ownership? Please explain yourself, because I suspect you do not know anything about the AR15, it's components, or it's functionality. If you did you would realize that the Assault Weapons Ban is nothing but a sham, and if passed, would leave weapons that function in exactly the same way, still legal to own. The ONLY difference is that the weapons that would remain legal wouldn't look as "scary" or as menacing.

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Walking around with a gun and knife to pick up trash, similar to stockpiling weapons to one day fight government,
I don't know of anyone who stock pikles weapons with the intention of literally fighting the government.

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What makes them ignorant?
Being scared of an inanimate object.

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No one I have ever seen requires weapons to pick up trash.
So whats that have to do with anything???

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And since you can't tell him from the next Adam Lanza, how do the neighbors know whether he's making the neighborhood safer or simply a disturbed 19 year old waiting to pop?
How can you tell if the guy standing behind in line at the store is going to bury all eight inches of his buck knife in your skull. How do you determine if someone will take you by the neck and strangle you for no reason at all? How do you determine if the guy in the oncoming lane won't go left of center and kill you both? The answer is you can't. Thats it. End of story. We do not live in a safe world and that is all their is to it, all your panicing won't help a thing. The problem is you guys { liberals } live in a world that does not exist.

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Since you're opinons on firearms are based on what the NRA tells you they are,.
Our opinions are based on our expoerience from owning them, handling them, and using them. It is you that is the ignorant one, pressing for laws on objects you have zero understanding of.

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2) My opinion on Firearms is based on living 15 miles from Newtown, CT
So in other words, he was correct when he said they are based on emotion and that is all? We thought so. You people act as if Newtown was the first time children were slaughtered. Oh... Oh my.... we have to do..... "something"..... Never mind the fact that children are slaughtered every day around the world by ongoing conflicts. Wher is your outrage on that? Children are starving around the world and likely even in your own community... Where is your outrage on that? How many children have Obamas drones killed? Where is the RAGE? You have none because this is faux outrage from a fony.

Cruel as it may sound... in the grand scheme of things.... 20 children guned down in an elemetary school is not that big of a deal when considering all the injustices children face every day.

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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........If a stranger was walking down the street in front of your yard armed, while your kids played outside I doubt your first concern would be the rights of the gun owner. That's not rhetorical.
It would depend on how he was carrying the firearm. If he was carrying in a "transport mode" why would I be concerned? If he was carrying in a treatening manner......then.....well.....if he had bad intentions......he woulden't for long........
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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Really weird and bizarre child, what's the need for the guns and ammo while picking up garbage. I noticed there was no one on the streets while he was in action. Must be interesting when the kids leave the school bus.
Seems that he is known in his neighborhood.

In the area where we have a cabin when my boys go around the neighborhood picking up trash at least one of us is armed often it's one of the boys carrying. We have a lot of bears and moose in the area and depending on the time of year the bears and moose can be a little cranky. Our neighbors invite the boys in for cool or hot drinks firearms and all. No one thinks my boys are weird or bizarre. Our neighbors think the are nice young men helping out in the neighborhood.

If he was in our neighborhood the kids would surround him when they got off the bus to check out his cool firearm.

I would invite him to go to the range with me, my wife, and four boys so that we could have a chance to shoot his firearm. I would even buy the ammo.
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