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Old 04-30-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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So what? He still won.
And he's still a faulre..

tell me how winning the election, and not being able to do anything is good
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Republicans' biggest failure? That they didn't swing left after the 2012 "Shellacking."
Since Congress writes legislations, and the House is where tax increases have to be initiated, then they dont need to move, they simply not write the bills..
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Why exactly would he have done that? He's a democrat. Stupid post.

And no, he's not a lame duck president. He's actually trying to get things done. Blame congress.
Um, I think you need to re-read the post. It has nothing to do with him being a Democrat per se, but everything to do with endearing himself to the half of the nation that repudiated liberal policies in the 2010 election. He, the President, has a vested interest in leaning in towards the electorate that virtually ensured that he will get nothing done for the rest of his Presidency.....after all...it is they who gave him the shellacking. The problem is, he hasn't. He's further divided the electorate and the result is that his Presidency is a perpetual lame duck.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Default Obama's Biggest Failure? That He Didn't Swing Right After The 2010 "Shellacking"

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After a devastating defeat to Democrats in 2010, all Obama had to do was slide right and endear himself to the electorate. His Presidency would have been immensely more successful. But he didn't. Instead, he succeeded to successfully divide the nation by bashing the very constituents that sent Democrats home. He learned nothing.....his amateurship on full display.

That the President now laments that he can get nothing done in Washington, he need only to hark back to 2010 and how he has conducted himself since.

The Perpetually Lame Duck President has no one to blame but himself for his sordid predicament.

Please forward your strategy to the White House advisors ASAP.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Um, I think you need to re-read the post. It has nothing to do with him being a Democrat per se, but everything to do with endearing himself to the half of the nation that repudiated liberal policies in the 2010 election. He, the President, has a vested interest in leaning in towards the electorate that virtually ensured that he will get nothing done for the rest of his Presidency.....after all...it is they who gave him the shellacking. The problem is, he hasn't. He's further divided the electorate and the result is that his Presidency is a perpetual lame duck.
Hmmm, I guess you've been sleeping in a cave since he was elected. He has time & time again reached out to the idiot conservatives & tried to compromise, which is not a word in their vocabulary. Again, blame congress.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Hmmm, I guess you've been sleeping in a cave since he was elected. He has time & time again reached out to the idiot conservatives & tried to compromise, which is not a word in their vocabulary. Again, blame congress.
No he hasn't. His version of "compromise" is "I'll give you a penny if you give me a dollar." He'd like for his supporters to think he's a compromiser, but he's not. I submit to you Lyndon Baines Johnson if you're interested in learning what the art of compromise and the art of harnessing power actually looks like.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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Minutiae. Politics is a game of compromise. With a few moderate Republicans available to cross party lines on just about any issue, your math is pretty much irrelevant.
Really?
In 2012 Obama was reelected, Democrats gained two seats in the Senate, and gained 10 seats in the House. By your logic, Republicans should be swinging to the left. When can we expect the GOP to start compromising?
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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No he hasn't. His version of "compromise" is "I'll give you a penny if you give me a dollar." He'd like for his supporters to think he's a compromiser, but he's not. I submit to you Lyndon Baines Johnson if you're interested in learning what the art of compromise and the art of harnessing power actually looks like.
Yes, he has. Sorry you're blinded by partisanship, just like the righties in congress.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No he hasn't. His version of "compromise" is "I'll give you a penny if you give me a dollar." He'd like for his supporters to think he's a compromiser, but he's not. I submit to you Lyndon Baines Johnson if you're interested in learning what the art of compromise and the art of harnessing power actually looks like.
John Boehner "I got 98% of what I wanted"

If giving the opposition almost everything they wanted isn't compromise...

Or is this the point where you move the goal post?
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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President Obama cant increase his support by moving to the right. Anytime he has done it, these threads lightup with " arent you liberals mad that he betrayed you, i still wouldnt vote for him" and blah, blah, blah,. He is in a no win situation with your side.

That being said, he did win the election, regardless of if it was by a lesser margin than the previous election. If you are going to argue margin of victory, can we include gerrymandering and the fact that House Democrats won the popular vote ?
lol, so you are saying Obama is doing the same thing as Romney. Obama won't move center because it will not matter, we are now the 47%ers, the people who no matter what Obama does so to hell with the right. He remains too left.
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