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Old 05-08-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Some people are just wired with a negative mindset. Whatever happens, they will always look for something to complain about. Such people are best ignored.
You just described a ******* lol

 
Old 05-08-2013, 07:52 AM
 
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See post# 45 in this thread. Oh, we don't have trillion dollar deficits but we used to. That's the point of this thread.
So if George Bush would have started out year 1 in his term with a $1.5T deficit, and then went down to $250B after that, you'd be applauding his success, or would you be more than likely calling it for what it would be, which is bull crap?
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Moreover, many including myself credit activist monetary and fiscal policy for keeping the economy of five years ago from being a repeat of the Great Depression. Those same people said that the stimulus should have been much bigger at the time and would have had a greater reversal of the bad economy.
Yeah, lots of you guys said welfare stimulates, but cant list one town that gets stimulaed when welfare payments increase.. Why is that?
 
Old 05-08-2013, 07:54 AM
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One word for you: "Europe."
Exactly.

Republicans love to blather on about austerity. Which is fine, except that the study they use to justify it was based on - at best - extremely sloppy work, and likely outright academic fraud. They love to ignore the abject failure of deep austerity measures in other countries, which just made their problems even worse.

Gradual, limited cuts and limited revenue increases are how you solve this problem, not the GOP plan to take an axe to the budget and then make things even worse by slashing revenues.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exactly.

Republicans love to blather on about austerity. Which is fine, except that the study they use to justify it was based on - at best - extremely sloppy work, and likely outright academic fraud. They love to ignore the abject failure of deep austerity measures in other countries, which just made their problems even worse.

Gradual, limited cuts and limited revenue increases are how you solve this problem, not the GOP plan to take an axe to the budget and then make things even worse by slashing revenues.
We just had a percentage cut from future spending and the Fed couldn't handle that.
It was a reduction in growth, not cuts to current spending.
Indiscriminate cuts to programs that are taxpayer facing was done on purpose to rile up taxpayer emotions.

The US would crumble if they had any REAL austerity implemented.
Just look at the outrage when people were told they'd be waiting a bit more to get on a plane.

Americans today have not yet seen austerity.

The Non-Existent Spending Cuts Wrought By The 'Devastating' Sequester - Forbes
 
Old 05-08-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Exactly.

Republicans love to blather on about austerity. Which is fine, except that the study they use to justify it was based on - at best - extremely sloppy work, and likely outright academic fraud. They love to ignore the abject failure of deep austerity measures in other countries, which just made their problems even worse.

Gradual, limited cuts and limited revenue increases are how you solve this problem, not the GOP plan to take an axe to the budget and then make things even worse by slashing revenues.
Reinhart-Rogoff are honest academicians they just got their Excel formula wrong and it gave them the exact wrong result for the question of whether austerity worked. The argument over whether austerity works is over. It doesn't.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Reinhart-Rogoff are honest academicians they just got their Excel formula wrong and it gave them the exact wrong result for the question of whether austerity worked. The argument over whether austerity works is over. It doesn't.
I didn't need an excel spreadsheet to tell me that.

Look at Europe and you can SEE that it doesn't work after several years of implementation and tightening.
Greece is the poster child of that failed experiment.

What did work was crash and burn and pick yourself up and rebuild.
Iceland.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Deficit plunges 32%

As the economy improves, tax revenues will increase. This, coupled with lowered govt spending, will be a good result and could spur further growth.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: #
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No, it didn't! No, it didn't! No! No! No!
Obama is a Commie!
Didn't ya know?
 
Old 05-08-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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As the economy improves, tax revenues will increase. This, coupled with lowered govt spending, will be a good result and could spur further growth.
That's the goal.
 
Old 05-08-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I love how people are disappointed by this.
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