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I love the thread question? Good question. Now let's see those that think anyone that does not swallow climate change as being our fault is crazy, answer it. They can't because there is no answer except that climates change and always have whether or not humans have anything to do with it.
I love the thread question? Good question. Now let's see those that think anyone that does not swallow climate change as being our fault is crazy, answer it. They can't because there is no answer except that climates change and always have whether or not humans have anything to do with it.
Um. Do you people really believe all those NOAA scientists don't already know that the climate has been changing for the past 4.5 billion years? As if this information about how our atmosphere works, which apparently conservatives have just recently stumbled upon, will turn the state of climate science on its head.
NOAA Scientist: OMG, did you know that there's this huge thing called the OCEAN that absorbs and releases carbon dioxide??
Other NOAA Scientist: Holy crap, really? No way! Surely this is going to change the entire stance of all scientists who were apparently unaware of the presence of the ocean!
The questions I would really loved answered if this:
Are there any historical/geological records - and I mean really accurate, specific, verifiable records - that show whether or not any rapid changes like the one we are supposedly* going through now has happened before?
How many times?
Was was supposedly the causes then?
Was man around at the time?
What was the predominant organism at the time?
If it could be proven - and I mean PROVEN, not supported - that this supposed* rapid change has never occurred in the 4.8 billion year history of the earth, then I will accept that we (man) are solely (or mostly) repsonsible.
Until then, I'm a skeptic.
* I say "supposed" because their does exist evidence that the "rapidity" is not quite accurate.
Climate change is a completely natural occurrence. The current EXTREMELY RAPID changes we're seeing in the climate is not a natural occurrence.
Extinction is a completely natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY RAPID rate of extinction we're seeing today by rapid deforestation in the tropics is not a natural occurrence.
Evolution is a natural molding force. The EXTREMELY RAPID rate of breed creation in dogs in the Victorian era was not a natural occurrence.
Forest fires are a natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY hot, rampant, large forest fires that are occurring due to fire suppression practices are not a natural occurrence.
The eutrophication of a lake as it ages is a natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY RAPID eutrophication of a lake because we dump a bunch of sewage into it is not a natural occurrence.
So yes, humans have the ability to speed up, slow down, worsen and sometimes even improve natural processes.
On average, the global average temperature is practically the same. Incoming radiation is equal to outgoing radiation. Yet over millions of years, very insignificant and very minimal daily changes have sent the earth between a ball of ice and a ball of fire.
...Consider the different heat retention properties of things like water and land.
...Consider the physical differences between solid water and water vapor and it's significance to weather.
...Consider the heat retention of the various gases in the atmosphere.
...Consider the fact that the night and day temperatures vary greatly on Mercury and aren't present on Venus.
...Consider the light blocking properties of matter in the atmosphere.
...Consider the temperature inversion in the atmosphere
...Consider the average temperature of the hydrosphere.
...Consider slow moving ocean currents.
A lot of it due to volcanic activity which we are emulating at an increasing rate, why do you ask?
You can't differentiate between humans and a process?
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