What caused climate change before the arrivals of humans? (Obama, dollar, England)
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Any influence by man on Global Warming, has no factual backing whatsoever.
In truth, climates frequently change.
Sometimes the climate gets warmer.
And sometimes it gets colder.
That's been going on for as long as the planet has been orbiting the Sun. Or, as long as it's had a climate, at least.
And man has never had the slightest influence on it.
Even the leftist loons who scream about how we have to use government to change everything, go back to the stone age, etc., to prevent some unknown catastrophe, have never been able to come up with even ONE study or example that backs up their claims.
What's funny is that, when they do name some study, it invariably turns out to be nothing but a bunch of long-winded claims which, finally, refer to some other "study" for proof. And what is in that other "study"? You guessed it - more long-winded claims, and eventually a reference to yet another study. And you can guess what is in that one, too.
The leftist global-whatever loons have been insisting on impending doom, and the urgent need to give government massive powers to change every bit of our lives to "avoid" that doom, for at least 40 years by my count. Literally billions of dollars have changed hands - usually into their hands - all over the world. And they still haven't come up with one shred of proof that man has had the least bit of influence on the climate changes that happen regularly around us. Nor is there any proof that man can do anything to change it.
***40 YEARS*** of screaming, caterwauling, and doomsaying. All without the slightest proof. Just references to references to references, ad infinitum. And demands that they be given complete power over all of us, to change what they cannot change.
Climate change is a completely natural occurrence. The current EXTREMELY RAPID changes we're seeing in the climate is not a natural occurrence.
Extinction is a completely natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY RAPID rate of extinction we're seeing today by rapid deforestation in the tropics is not a natural occurrence.
Evolution is a natural molding force. The EXTREMELY RAPID rate of breed creation in dogs in the Victorian era was not a natural occurrence.
Forest fires are a natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY hot, rampant, large forest fires that are occurring due to fire suppression practices are not a natural occurrence.
The eutrophication of a lake as it ages is a natural occurrence. The EXTREMELY RAPID eutrophication of a lake because we dump a bunch of sewage into it is not a natural occurrence.
So yes, humans have the ability to speed up, slow down, worsen and sometimes even improve natural processes.
Yeah, it cracks me up how some people seem to be so dumb that they can't understand that just BECAUSE something happens NATURALLY, that doesn't preclude it from happening ARTIFICIALLY as well. Climate change can occur for a number of reasons - including changes in the makeup of the atmosphere. Such changes can and have occured naturally in the past, but they are also happening NOW artificially (and at a much faster pace than when it's happened naturally) - and doesn't matter whether those changes occur naturally or artificially, the impact to the climate will STILL be felt.
Yes, those silly scientists with their "data" and "references"! It's almost as if they had some sort of...process for asking questions, testing hypotheses, and collecting data. It's almost as if they want to...verify their results by making it easy for other scientists to understand their process. And, crazy scientists, they have this absurd method to assure the quality of their results through the process of peer review. What total loons!
What they REALLY should be doing is just posting random graphs from the blogs they read. That's how facts are made, you guys!
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
Any influence by man on Global Warming, has no factual backing whatsoever.
In truth, climates frequently change.
Sometimes the climate gets warmer.
And sometimes it gets colder.
That's been going on for as long as the planet has been orbiting the Sun. Or, as long as it's had a climate, at least.
And man has never had the slightest influence on it.
Even the leftist loons who scream about how we have to use government to change everything, go back to the stone age, etc., to prevent some unknown catastrophe, have never been able to come up with even ONE study or example that backs up their claims.
What's funny is that, when they do name some study, it invariably turns out to be nothing but a bunch of long-winded claims which, finally, refer to some other "study" for proof. And what is in that other "study"? You guessed it - more long-winded claims, and eventually a reference to yet another study. And you can guess what is in that one, too.
The leftist global-whatever loons have been insisting on impending doom, and the urgent need to give government massive powers to change every bit of our lives to "avoid" that doom, for at least 40 years by my count. Literally billions of dollars have changed hands - usually into their hands - all over the world. And they still haven't come up with one shred of proof that man has had the least bit of influence on the climate changes that happen regularly around us. Nor is there any proof that man can do anything to change it.
***40 YEARS*** of screaming, caterwauling, and doomsaying. All without the slightest proof. Just references to references to references, ad infinitum. And demands that they be given complete power over all of us, to change what they cannot change.
On average, the global average temperature is practically the same. Incoming radiation is equal to outgoing radiation. Yet over millions of years, very insignificant and very minimal daily changes have sent the earth between a ball of ice and a ball of fire.
...Consider the different heat retention properties of things like water and land.
...Consider the physical differences between solid water and water vapor and it's significance to weather.
...Consider the heat retention of the various gases in the atmosphere.
...Consider the fact that the night and day temperatures vary greatly on Mercury and aren't present on Venus.
...Consider the light blocking properties of matter in the atmosphere.
...Consider the temperature inversion in the atmosphere
...Consider the average temperature of the hydrosphere.
...Consider slow moving ocean currents.
Solar flares causing pole shifting.
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Yes, it's true. NASA predicts a solar pole shift, a polar reversal that will happen in 2012 on the sun. However, this is not unusual for the sun's poles to flip. This happens every 11 years. The last time the sun had a pole reversal was in 2001. The fact that the sun will have a polar shift where the poles literally reverse is a natural occurrence and is nothing to be amazed about. This happens constantly in the sun's cycles. This is not unusual science from NASA.
Solar Flares, Solar Wind, Solar Storms, and Sun Spots
What is unusual are the predictions from NASA about the solar flares, sun storms, solar wind and the solar activity concerning sun spots in 2012. Solar Cycle 24 is a level of maximum solar activity on the sun in 2012. What has scientists concerned are the effects of solar wind, solar storms, and solar flares on our planet.
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