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Old 05-14-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Is this a proposed law that you are referring to?
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Yes.

NTSB recommends lowering blood alcohol level that constitutes drunk driving - U.S. News
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Is this a proposed law that you are referring to?
Its a recommendation from the NTSB.
Government transportation safety agency recommends stricter alcohol limits for drivers - NY Daily News
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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Ah, thanks for that. .08 isn't even drunk so I'd rather subsidize public transport than lower the limit. Based on this chart 2 drinks in one hour will get you to .05 for most people.

Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) - In The Know Zone
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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It will kill the hospitality industry. Tired of these old nags.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I believe Japan's BAC is roughly equivalent to .03 or .02 and after having lived there for years, I can say there is very little effect on the hospitality industry. In fact, Japan has one of the most vibrant hospitality industries in any country I've ever been. Many of their bars stay open 24/7 or may close for just a few hours in the morning to clean up.

Of course, they also have one of the best mass transit systems in the world so there really is no excuse whatsoever to drink and drive. You're never more than half a mile from a train station, taxi stand, bus stop, or bicycle storage. Well, at least in Tokyo it's like that.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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The NTSB recommends stuff all the time but that really doesn't mean squat. They've recommended that all civilian airliners get rid of Kapton wiring due to its inherent ability to short out, arc, and catch fire. And, guess what? If the airplane you're flying on isn't brand new, it's probably got the stuff on there.

I make my living as a mechanic tracking down these burnt out wires. Well, that's not all I do but it certainly keeps me employed. The NTSB has been recommending for years that the FAA mandate all that wiring to be changed. Would it make for safer airplanes? Yep. But it would literally kill an already severely hurting aviation industry.

Many of the NTSB's recommendations come based on statistical evidence and the scientific method. They may say, with good evidentiary reasoning, something to the effect that "If you lower the BAC, it will prevent 'X' amount of deaths." They're probably right too. There's probably a large body of statistical and scientific evidence to back that up.

But, one of the fine lines of justice and ethics a government has to face is doing the right thing for the right reasons, trying to ensure the maximum happiness of its citizens without infringing on the rights of the minority, and ensuring that what it does still provides for life, liberty and a pursuit of happiness. It's just not as simple as Fox News makes it out to be.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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It will kill the hospitality industry. Tired of these old nags.
That reminds me of the people who were so worried that bar & restaurant business would drop off or die once anti-smoking laws were put into effect. How'd that work out?
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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Is there proof that driving below .08 causes problems?



Seems like this comes out of the file cabinet where the following can also be found...
  • High cigarette taxes on those addicted to nicotine
  • The lottery as a means for the poor to pay the state - taking advantage of their desire for riches
  • Taxing big gulps

Now they can collect more revenue for those who enjoy alcohol by tightening the laws.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Best legal limit: 0.000
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