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Old 05-19-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Why go through the suffering and expense (even with insurance) when it can be prevented?
And, even though California has fire fighters.... they have been know to require assistance in the past. But, I don't know if they have enough man power to quickly clear the area.
You conveniently ignore the suffering and expense of taking money from working people in other states to fund your local preventative measure.
Of course when spending other peoples money, it's easy to engage in such measures.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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You conveniently ignore the suffering and expense of taking money from working people in other states to fund your local preventative measure.
Of course when spending other peoples money, it's easy to engage in such measures.
And of course you forget that my tax dollars are helping your state. There are times that doing things in scale is best rather than have 50 different implementations.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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And of course you forget that my tax dollars are helping your state. There are times that doing things in scale is best rather than have 50 different implementations.
How do you know that? Some states get more money than others and maybe some never get any, but all pay.
Since there are so many disaster scenarios,in so many different locales,there should absolutely be as many different implementations.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:58 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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How do you know that? Some states get more money than others and maybe some never get any, but all pay.
Since there are so many disaster scenarios,in so many different locales,there should absolutely be as many different implementations.
I don't agree... FEMA today is charged with recovery from hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, floods, explosions and I think that covers most of the disasters. Each state is going cover all of those?
I think that if each state had their own version of FEMA, it would be less efficient and more expensive than what we have now. With each state, there'd be duplication of effort which would cost more than the one agency we have.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Let's take neighboring states.... Florida and Georgia and Alabama. Is it Georgia's or Alabama's fault that Florida probably has a lot more resources? Sometimes the difference between resources is the luck of the draw.

They all tax and they all spend.... per capita.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:07 PM
 
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Maybe oxygen starvation in those two useless cities is a good idea.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:10 PM
 
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I don't agree... FEMA today is charged with recovery from hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, floods, explosions and I think that covers most of the disasters. Each state is going cover all of those?
I think that if each state had their own version of FEMA, it would be less efficient and more expensive than what we have now. With each state, there'd be duplication of effort which would cost more than the one agency we have.
Why cant states cover them?
Sorry I cant see how having additional layers of beuracracy dictating efforts from a location far from the disaster is more efficient.
Google the terms FEMA, corruption,incompetence and get back to us on its competence.

But of course we are off topic here, this is a very specific situation and you've not justified why FEMA should be spending tax money on a local non-emergency measure.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Why cant states cover them?
Sorry I cant see how having additional layers of beuracracy dictating efforts from a location far from the disaster is more efficient.
Google the terms FEMA, corruption,incompetence and get back to us on its competence.

But of course we are off topic here, this is a very specific situation and you've not justified why FEMA should be spending tax money on a local non-emergency measure.
To prevent a situation where they would have to come in and spend more many to recover.... because they would be called in to help.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Uh that was 22 years ago and taxpayers across the country shouldnt be paying to address a local prevention measure.

That is what I was wondering - since when is fire control a Federal Issue?
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Do those of you criticizing this action live in this area or even in California?
Dragonslayer is absolutely correct.
Yes, I live here, and I think this is nothing short of insanity. If you're so afraid of fires, don't give people permits to live in these areas. If you do, then part of their property taxes should pay for prevention and response. All of our exhorbitant taxes are to preserve and protect this beautiful environment. What the hell is wrong with you people?

There is so much new technology for fire suppression, but the controllers would rather torch it or flatten it. The question is why?
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