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Where do you idiots think we get oxygen? From plants and trees (algae is a plant). I read somewhere that our oxygen levels are getting depleted. We need something like 15% and we are at roughly 17%. No more clear cutting. Where did all the liberals go?
I am a tree hugger. With all the chemtrail spraying, the environment is already under assault, along with humans. Wake tfup
Do you have any idea how much death and destruction those fires caused? How large the prevention effort is? Maybe the prevention required is too large for the locals to handle.
I'm sure your locale can afford to prevent or recover from any disaster
By the way, there are meetings being held between the citizenry and FEMA to address this proposal.
25 people died in the fire, 150 injured, 3354 homes destroyed, 437 apartments with an estimated loss of $1.5 billion. The winds reached over 60 mph with gusts as high as 70 mph. It was shear luck that the winds gave up after 5 pm, otherwise the fire would have continued its spread southward towards San Leandro and also over the hills to Contra Costa county and Moraga. Once it had gone up and over the hills into dryer land, it would have pailed any other fire that has hit California. The entire Oakland Hills and Berekely hills would have burned until the fire ran out of fuel. I lived in the Oakland Hills and knew how dense the undergrowth was back then and am sure without fuel reduction efforts, the fire fuel load is significantly higher now. It took the effort of all of the San Francisco bar area fire fighters from as far as Santa Rosa to the north and from Santa Cruz in the south and Contra Costa to the east and they were still overwhelmed by the fire. What most people do not know is that all of the fire hydrants in the upper Broadway Terrace neighborhoods were old antiquated fire hydrants that no one had hoses to fit, a fitting had to be brought from Marin County to allow access to the water in the hydrants, then a stupid newspaper reporter drove over the hose and burst it. I know all of this because I was there when it happened, first hand. I stayed there watching the fire from Broadway Terrace till close to 10 pm that Sunday night, the 19th of October. The tops of large pines were bursting into flames and launching embers into the air and landing on homes igniting them into flames.
Well we arent talking about a hurricane across state lines are we? And no disaster has even taken place.
We cant have the broke FEMA authorized to be spending money on pre-disasters.
If the effort had been made to thin out the eucalyptus trees and pines before the fire, it is possible that the fire would not have gone out of control. So spending money before hand could have saved the lives of the 25 people who died and prevented the distruction of all of those homes. Some of those homes were architectual masterpieces, like a Julia Morgan home that burned down on Ocean View just two blocks from one of my yards. The fire was preventable.
If the effort had been made to thin out the eucalyptus trees and pines before the fire, it is possible that the fire would not have gone out of control. So spending money before hand could have saved the lives of the 25 people who died and prevented the distruction of all of those homes. Some of those homes were architectual masterpieces, like a Julia Morgan home that burned down on Ocean View just two blocks from one of my yards. The fire was preventable.
Not sure how this makes the case for the rest of us to pay for your tree removal.
There are forrests all across the country, where should it stop?
Not sure how this makes the case for the rest of us to pay for your tree removal.
There are forrests all across the country, where should it stop?
So, you want to just wait for another large fire and then absorb the cost then? That is foolish at least. diminishing the fuel load could prevent another disaster like the one in 91 and could cost far less then rebuilding the homes lost, but the lives cannot be replaced when they are lost. Do you even know the Oakland Berkeley hills, have you ever been there? And this was not a forest fire, it was a wild lands urban fire. The Oakland hills used to be covered in oak trees and redwoods that were replaced with homes and the trees the owners brought in with them for landscaping. Remove the trees now and there may not be another huge fire like that one.
This destructive plan is rapidly moving forward with little publicity, and FEMA cleverly scheduled its three public meetings for mid and late May while UC Berkeley students were in finals or gone for the summer.
Trees are our lifeblood, we need to be working to preserve them, not destroy. This story breaks my heart.
Trees are our lifeblood, we need to be working to preserve them, not destroy. This story breaks my heart.
Most of the trees in the Oakland/Berkeley hills are non native trees and are not suited to the climate, especially the eucalyptus trees which are extremely flamable. It would be better to remove the non native trees and replace them with native oaks and redwoods. The danger of these non native trees far exceeds their usefulness in producing oxygen. Why get broken hearted over eucalyptus, pines and cypress trees, should be lamenting the loss of the oaks and the redwoods that used to cover those hills and make plans on returning them. It makes no sense to keep these undesirable trees and wait for another conflagration as the one in 1991, the one in 1970 and the one that hit Berkeley in 1923 on the north side of the college that consumed 640 homes. It is less expensive to prevent the fires than to just wait for the next one and lose all the homes that have to be replaced.
They are there now, they are beautiful, and the locals should have a chance to be heard. This sounds like one of the Senate bills that they push thru before anybody's had a chance to read it, review it, or discuss it. BS
Trees are trees, they provide oxygen that we depend upon for survival - we need to start working towards preservation. Clear cutting and polluting the ground with toxins is a crazy idea. I cannot believe anybody would defend this.
Oxygen shortage in the human body has been linked to every major illness category including heart conditions, cancer, digestion and elimination problems, respiratory disease, inflamed, swollen and aching joints, sinus problems, yeast infections and even sexual dysfunction. Fresh live foods and rain water contain oxygen. Cooked foods and stagnant water has much less oxygen. Oxygen is our primary source of energy. It displaces harmful free radicals, neutralizes environmental toxins and destroys anaerobic (the inability to live in oxygen rich environments) infectious bacteria, parasites, microbes and viruses.
It is the main energy source for our brain function. It calms the mind and stabilizes the nervous system. Without oxygen we cannot absorb important vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients our body needs. When our cells lack oxygen they weaken and die. Without oxygen, nothing works very well or at all.
More indicators of possible low oxygen levels in the body are muscle aches; forgetfulness; heart palpitations; circulation or digestive problems; damaged cell growth; excessive amounts of colds and infections.
Oxygen depletion weakens our immune system, which leads to viral infections, damaged cells, growths, inflamed joins, serious heart and circulatory problems, toxic buildup in blood and premature aging. Low oxygen allows damaged cells to multiply and form growths in our bodies because our cells are oxygen deficient. If the cells in our bodies are rich in oxygen, mutated cells are less able to reproduce.
Some say, well if the trees all die, we still have the oceans. Nope, the dead zones are growing.
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These dead zones occur when fertilizer runoff dumps excess nutrients, such as nitrogen and phosphorous, into coastal waters, providing food for algae. When these microscopic plants die and sink to the ocean bottom, bacteria feed on them and subsequently consume all the oxygen dissolved in the water.
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