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Old 05-21-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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That's fine if they are consistent and the law makes sense, how come we didn't see any other cases exposed in the papers, were they not made public. Maybe you can provide one specific case that has occurred in the lat year, or maybe all the heterosexuals abstain?
It doesn't make the papers any more than an ordinary shoplifting case because it is not news, because publicity makes it more difficult for the juvenile to move on, and because the guilty adult doesn't exactly want the publicity either. This is equality in action.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It doesn't make the papers any more than an ordinary shoplifting case because it is not news, because publicity makes it more difficult for the juvenile to move on, and because the guilty adult doesn't exactly want the publicity either. This is equality in action.
Criminal convictions are a matter of public record, should be really easy to quote all the cases in the last year in Fl. They chose to destroy this girls life because they didn't agree with her lifestyle.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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If you are too stupid to realize that thousands of young men have been arrested and convicted of the same thing, I can't help you. This has nothing to do with her sexuality, the Florida statute is extremely clear. Over the age of 12 but under 16, it is against the law. No exceptions, just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean a thing.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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They are only 2 years and change apart in age, 2 grades apart in school. They had been dating for more than a year and the parents filed charges when the older one turned 18. At least that is what the article I read said.

It's a ridiculous law no matter whether the couple involved is gay or straight. Instead on kvetching, we should all use the attention this is gathering to put an end to these dumb laws in the first place. Too many teenagers having their lives ruined for having sex in high school with other high schoolers. That is not what statutory rape laws were intended to prevent.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:32 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Criminal convictions are a matter of public record, should be really easy to quote all the cases in the last year in Fl. They chose to destroy this girls life because they didn't agree with her lifestyle.
Yeah right, I'm going to spend an evening combing the internet looking at arrest records to appease some anonymous person on a forum. I don't care enough to go to that much trouble.

It's there, it happens when parents choose to press charges, and most strike a plea deal. Whenever you hear about someone required to register on a sex offender list serving in the military, these are the people doing it - those who under the age of 20 were charged with statutory rape of a person less than 3 years younger than them.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:35 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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They are only 2 years and change apart in age, 2 grades apart in school. They had been dating for more than a year and the parents filed charges when the older one turned 18. At least that is what the article I read said.

It's a ridiculous law no matter whether the couple involved is gay or straight. Instead on kvetching, we should all use the attention this is gathering to put an end to these dumb laws in the first place. Too many teenagers having their lives ruined for having sex in high school with other high schoolers. That is not what statutory rape laws were intended to prevent.
I absolutely agree. And the notion that they end up having to sit on some list, which people have used to deny housing or harass them, the rest of their lives is beyond ludicrous. They could kill someone and be less ostracized.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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I absolutely agree. And the notion that they end up having to sit on some list, which people have used to deny housing or harass them, the rest of their lives is beyond ludicrous. They could kill someone and be less ostracized.
Exactly. It's pure foolishness with horrible real life consequences. This is what happens when short sighted politicians write clumsy laws. It should have ended years ago, it's not a new problem.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Criminal convictions are a matter of public record, should be really easy to quote all the cases in the last year in Fl. They chose to destroy this girls life because they didn't agree with her lifestyle.
No, it has NOTHING to do with lifestyle. It has everything to do with someone that is old enough to vote and by age is considered an adult being sexually active with a person not even old enough to drive. The way the homosexuals are trying to spin this is wrong, VERY WRONG !!! Let this go and next you will see is the homosexual community wanting it to be ok for 50 year olds to have sex with 10 year olds. They are disgusting.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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If you are too stupid to realize that thousands of young men have been arrested and convicted of the same thing, I can't help you. This has nothing to do with her sexuality, the Florida statute is extremely clear. Over the age of 12 but under 16, it is against the law. No exceptions, just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean a thing.
It's false that there are no exceptions. Until Kaitlyn was 18, the relationship was legal. That's an exception. Surely people of any political bent can agree that a law that zig-zags between illegal and legal and back again is absurd, whether it is applied to a male, female, gay or straight?

If someone only wanted to change the law for lesbians, I would understand the opposition. But nobody does. We want to make the law fair and reasonable across the board.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:56 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's false that there are no exceptions. Until Kaitlyn was 18, the relationship was legal. That's an exception. Surely people of any political bent can agree that a law that zig-zags between illegal and legal and back again is absurd, whether it is applied to a male, female, gay or straight?

If someone only wanted to change the law for lesbians, I would understand the opposition. But nobody does. We want to make the law fair and reasonable across the board.

At what upper age do you draw the line? 18? 19? 25? 70? That's where the rub comes.

As a teacher I've seen this situation numerous times over the years, most recently this Spring. Twenty one year old boy, sixteen year old girl. Not illegal in MD but the parents of the girl pushed the issue so there was a minor, low-level involvement of legal authorities. As a note, the boy is a very immature 21.

Nineteen year old Senior, 15 year old Sophomore gets the older kid arrested. Again, if the parents push the issue. That was last year. It was not the first time at the rodeo for the 15 year old girl but it was the first time her mother caught her. The legal issues for the boy just got cleared up.

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