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Old 05-27-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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No different for when it was Bush's fault.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Well Obama is the pivot man in spite of always trying to present himself as outside of any government caused problem.
Apparently you believe him.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?
What you mean is that there is no proof, not that there isn't any reason to believe so.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?
The buck stops there.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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0bama sets the tone. He's the big boss. He sends out his minions to speak for him. No president in my lifetime has been as divisive as 0bama. By his words and actions, even if he doesn't directly speak the words, he encourages the type of behavior the IRS has indulged in.

Crap floats. He didn't rise to the top by accident. He's the baby daddy of the IRS scandal.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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this has to be a troll. just for fun and just in case you really are as uninformed as your post might suggest he (the mendacious mulatto) is the CEO of fedzilla. who should shoulder the responsibility if not he?
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?
Well, let's see. The POTUS stood up in a SOTU address and lambasted the SCOTUS.
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It's time to require lobbyists to disclose each contact they make on behalf of a client, with my administration or with Congress. It's time to put strict limits on the contributions that lobbyists give to candidates for Federal office. With all due deference to separation of powers, last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections. I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities.
State of the Union Address (January 27, 2010)

And then of course you had democrats writing all sorts of letter to the IRS:
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By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Published: October 6, 2010

WASHINGTON — With growing scrutiny of the role of tax-exempt groups in political campaigns, Congressional Republicans are pushing back against Democrats by warning about the possible misuse of the Internal Revenue Service to audit conservative groups.

Senator Baucus, the Democrat who leads the Finance Committee, asked the I.R.S. last week to conduct a broad review into “major” tax-exempt organizations to determine if any were misusing their tax-exempt status. Tax-exempt groups are banned from engaging in politics as their “primary” activity.

Mr. Baucus said “political campaigns and powerful individuals should not be able to use tax-exempt organizations as political pawns to serve their own special interests.”

But Senators Hatch and Kyl, in their own letter to the agency on Wednesday, said: “I.R.S. audits and investigations are specifically intended to be separated from the political process. We expect the I.R.S. will adhere to those standards despite requests to the contrary from high-level political officials.”
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You read that correctly.

The same Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee who this week is calling for hearings into IRS activities, specifically called on the IRS to engage in that very conduct back in 2010. And he wasn't the only one. Just last year, a group of seven Senate Democrats sent another letter to the IRS urging them to similarly investigate these outside political organizations.

So lost amid the hubbub surrounding the news that the IRS engaged in McCarthyite tactics to target specific political groups, and their subsequent apology for those tactics, has been the fact that the lobbying campaign from Senate Democrats actually worked.

From Max Baucus to Chuck Schumer to Jeanne Shaheen, key Senate Democrats publicly pressured the IRS to target groups that held differing political views and who, in their view, had the temerity to engage in the political process. The IRS listened to them and acted. And other Democrat senators like Kay Hagan and Mark Pryor said and did nothing about it.

Perhaps their strategy of distraction may work in the short-term with a Washington press corps pulled in a multitude of different directions, but Senate Democrats have a serious political problem that will haunt them as they head into an already-difficult election cycle. When these Senate Finance Committee hearings come to pass it would be a remarkable act of bravery and candor for one of these IRS bureaucrats to appropriately ask Max Baucus and others why they're not sitting at the witness tables next to them, instead of continuing in their charade of faux outrage.
Senate Democrats Pushed for IRS Tea Party Snooping Before Criticizing It - Brian Walsh (usnews.com)

So excuse us if nearly all the democrats who had the power were calling for investigations into conservative groups by the IRS and then the IRS ran with it. Now, of course, those democrats look like this:


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Old 05-27-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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0bama sets the tone. He's the big boss. He sends out his minions to speak for him. No president in my lifetime has been as divisive as 0bama. By his words and actions, even if he doesn't directly speak the words, he encourages the type of behavior the IRS has indulged in.

Crap floats. He didn't rise to the top by accident. He's the baby daddy of the IRS scandal.

Did'nt bush adminstration do the same thing to the NAACP when he was in office?

IRS targeted NAACP in 2004 - Kelsey Snell - POLITICO.com

Apparently many of the same things that happened under bush (unmentioned) is being blown up under obama
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Obama is in charge and he is responsible as a leader.

There is no way the large scale IRS attack of political opponents was some isolated hiccup. The haughty attitude of the IRS execs portrays a confidence that they are covered by someone high up in the whitehouse.

Obama is like Capone on St Valentine's Day when the massacre took place in Chicago and he was resting in Florida. No link was made but you know Capone called the hit just as Obama 'endorsed' the IRS to attack political opponents to win an election.

Obama has set the tone and created the environment for this to take place.

Rohm Emanuel threatened any bank who did business with gun companies in Chicago..this is the style campaign that Obama ran and his right hand man continues

THREAT - when running for office his handlers threatened to sue anyone who 'lied' about Obama

THREAT - whitehouse.gov site requests names and emails of obamacare opponents be reported to the whitehouse site

THREAT - hoffa got up just before obama spoke and shouted for his members to 'take out the SOBs", obama then steps up and takes no notice of hoffas threatening words..words that Pelosi warned about rhetoric leading to violence. Obama is a thug!

If Obama cannot be personally proved to be involved, the alternative is that Obama is so disinterested or oblivious he is blindingly incompetent. Your choice.
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