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............... the questioning of witnesses and gathering of information has just begun in the IRS, AP, and Benghazi scandals.
Be patient. Watergate was "not a big deal" initially either. Let's see how the investigations unfold. However, do you really think that NO ONE in the White House is going to be implicated in any of the three scandals?
Obama is either the dumbest, or most corrupt president in US history. Take your pick.
LOL...Benghazi has been "investigated" since before the election. (Remember? The one you were sure Romney would win). And of course, no one has been able to link Obama to any of these other "scandals". Yet you neo-cons are just "so sure something is there" but can't quite put your fingers in it. Just like you were all so sure Obama wasn't born in this country, but "couldn't quite prove it."
Either Republicans are the dumbest people in America, or the most corrupt. Take your pick.
Nixon was smart, in charge and driven, Obama not so much. But Obama, Nixon, Carter( out of the loop and just out of his league), Clinton( ethically), Bush 43( intellectually), they're all in the same category.
Obama's maybe a little like Reagan late in his second term, asleep at his desk.
Nixon was smart, in charge and driven, Obama not so much. But Obama, Nixon, Carter( out of the loop and just out of his league), Clinton( ethically), Bush 43( intellectually), they're all in the same category.
Obama's maybe a little like Reagan late in his second term, asleep at his desk.
I agree Nixon was smart, in charge, and driven. He was driven to destroy his enemies (perceived or real) and in charge of a massive scandal which eventually caused him to leave office in disgrace.
Last I checked, Obama is still here and none of your "conspiracies" have come even remotely close to implicating him.
What you guys don't get about Obama is he doesn't get all fired up about your games. He just keeps cool, calm, and collected, and goes about doing his job, despite all the rage from the regressive radical right.
Maybe information will someday emerge to confirm the conservative suspicion that Obama thuggishly subverted the IRS to win re-election, but so far, it falls in the realm of make-believe.
It is true that there have been a bunch of snafus under Obama, starting w/ Fast and Furious. I think it is still possible that Obama is indeed directing things via back channel communication, but we just don't know. Remember that when he met with Sarah Brady about gun control, he said "I just want you to know that we're working on it...We just have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."
It is also possible that there is just sheer incompetence at work in F&F, Benghazi, and the IRS scandal. There is also a 3rd possibility. A few years ago a local blogger named Stephan Sharkansky came up with the concept of 'distributed fraud.' He was talking about election fraud, but the same idea can apply to something like the IRS scandal. It entails a loose coalition of like-minded people working together to advance a cause without direct communication.
LOL...Benghazi has been "investigated" since before the election. (Remember? The one you were sure Romney would win). And of course, no one has been able to link Obama to any of these other "scandals". Yet you neo-cons are just "so sure something is there" but can't quite put your fingers in it. Just like you were all so sure Obama wasn't born in this country, but "couldn't quite prove it."
Either Republicans are the dumbest people in America, or the most corrupt. Take your pick.
1. benghazi has been "investigated"? Oh yes................ the investigation that did not interview any of the witnesses, White House staff, or the military commanders. Yes........... that "investigation"! I think that the current investigation will be a little more detailed.
2. The IRS scandal and the AP scandals are just getting under way. Clearly, a crime has been committed. When faced with prison terms, SOMEONE will roll over on those who ordered the audits/spying.
Be patient
Now if you really beleive that Obama knew NOTHING about these issues, then he is a complete buffoon and incompetent. If he did know, he is quite corrupt. Which is it?
LOL...Benghazi has been "investigated" since before the election. (Remember? The one you were sure Romney would win). And of course, no one has been able to link Obama to any of these other "scandals". Yet you neo-cons are just "so sure something is there" but can't quite put your fingers in it. Just like you were all so sure Obama wasn't born in this country, but "couldn't quite prove it."
Either Republicans are the dumbest people in America, or the most corrupt. Take your pick.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
Obama is either the dumbest, or most corrupt president in US history. Take your pick.
You left out the most obvious 'pick' completely innocent of GOP charges.
The GOP is trying to bludgeon President Obama over his supposed misdeeds and is using Rep. Issa, who is so biased that in 2010 called President Obama "Most Corrupt" President. These are all non-scandals that are being juiced by the GOP.
Except that President Nixon knew and authorized the break-in. Thus, the President of the United States was a co-conspirator to a crime -- not including the cover up. On March 28 on Nixon's orders, aide John Ehrlichman told Attorney General Richard Kleindienst that nobody in the White House had prior knowledge of the burglary.That wasn't true. Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dean and other White House officials were implicated in the coverup.
According to Wiki: "On March 1, 1974, a grand jury in Washington, D.C., indicted several former aides of President Nixon, who became known as the "Watergate Seven": Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, Charles Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian and Kenneth Parkinson, for conspiring to hinder the Watergate investigation. The grand jury secretly named President Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator."
Comparing that to Benghazi, after 9 hearings, nobody can identify any wrongdoing by Obama. That's a big difference -- especially considering embassy attacks are not uncommon. There were 13 embassy attacks during the Bush Administration, resulting in dozens of deaths. Yet, there wasn't countless inquisitions blaming the then president.
Actually, it's ironic that you mention this. Why? Because of Nixon's mistake of not being effectively shielded from "knowing" what was going on, every other President since him has not made that same mistake.
It's all about having an effective shield these days, not about who knew what and when they knew it. Barack Obama and President's before him have benefited from Nixon's mistake. Do you honestly think that Obama didn't know? He has a shield in place, just like every other President since Nixon.
You left out the most obvious 'pick' completely innocent of GOP charges.
The GOP is trying to bludgeon President Obama over his supposed misdeeds and is using Rep. Issa, who is so biased that in 2010 called President Obama "Most Corrupt" President. These are all non-scandals that are being juiced by the GOP.
No one cared about Watergate at the time except the media who was out to get Nixon. Nixon sailed to re-election anyway.
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