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Old 06-25-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Maybe the welfare person is only idle whilst between jobs.
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One in 50 perhaps. Until 1990s Welfare Reform,we had one generation after another mooching. We still need to cut back the duration of Welfare more. EITC should have a cap both on lifetime subsidy per household, plus years claimed.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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And a lot of corporate bosses who want to call all the shots and not be dictated to by a union labor contract.
Absolutely. Like the CEO of Hostess whose salary was tripled right before they asked the workers for further wage reductions. Of course they want to call the shots.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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One in 50 perhaps. Until 1990s Welfare Reform,we had one generation after another mooching. We still need to cut back the duration of Welfare more. EITC should have a cap both on lifetime subsidy per household, plus years claimed.
Maybe a cap on corporate welfare and bailouts too. Since that costs taxpayers a lot more than TANF does.

One company alone, AIG, received more than $150 billion during the bailout--more than was spent on TANF in the 26 yrs from 1990 to 2006.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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Maybe the welfare person is only idle whilst between jobs.

yet she/he is labled scrounger whilst the idle consultant is paid mega bonus.

One rule for the rich as they say.
Most top consultants work close to 80 hours/week. A friend of mine who is a consultant for Bain worked 93 hours last week. Do you have any clue what you are talking about?
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Maybe a cap on corporate welfare and bailouts too. Since that costs taxpayers a lot more than TANF does.

One company alone, AIG, received more than $150 billion during the bailout--more than was spent on TANF in the 26 yrs from 1990 to 2006.
how about elliminat corporate bailout completely


why should the taxpayer bailout a failed company...be it an insurance company, a bank, or a car company


all the money we spend of stimulas and bailout, we could have put a solar electrical system on every single family house in america...saving american homeowners REAL CASH as they would not need to pay some utility company 100-300 every single money...also saving the enviroment by not needing as much coal to power the powerplants feeding electricity to homes


but no liberals chose to bail out failed banks, failed car companies, and tried to impose a carbon tax on the people


liberals just hate the poor and workingclass,
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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correct, which means the average american is making more than his/her average 1970's comparison


BUT......costs have increase even more dramiticly...and the UNIONS ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
Real average wages have not increased in nearly half a century.

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Old 06-25-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Real average wages have not increased in nearly half a century.
kinda decietful way of saying it


''real'' wages shouldnt increase/decrease much


the fact is a house( physical possession that you can buy) in 1970 should be of EQUAL VALUE in 2013


the fact is wages have increase...but costs have increase even faster and further

I make 3 times what my father made...yet it is tougher today to make those same ends meet


the problem isnt the wages..the problem is greedy government and unions
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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kinda decietful way of saying it


''real'' wages shouldnt increase/decrease much


the fact is a house( physical possession that you can buy) in 1970 should be of EQUAL VALUE in 2013


the fact is wages have increase...but costs have increase even faster and further

I make 3 times what my father made...yet it is tougher today to make those same ends meet


the problem isnt the wages..the problem is greedy government and unions
One in the same. More unions are in the public sector than private and you can avoid a private union if you want to.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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kinda decietful way of saying it


''real'' wages shouldnt increase/decrease much


the fact is a house( physical possession that you can buy) in 1970 should be of EQUAL VALUE in 2013


the fact is wages have increase...but costs have increase even faster and further

I make 3 times what my father made...yet it is tougher today to make those same ends meet


the problem isnt the wages..the problem is greedy government and unions
I don't agree. Productivity has risen over the last few decades, but starting in the late 70's wages have not kept pace.




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Old 06-25-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Maybe a cap on corporate welfare and bailouts too. Since that costs taxpayers a lot more than TANF does.

One company alone, AIG, received more than $150 billion during the bailout--more than was spent on TANF in the 26 yrs from 1990 to 2006.
I have no issue with corp incentives tied to objective measures, such as FTEs or capital investments.

I do agree we need to watch the next AIG implode. We handled Lehman correctly, allowing the market to determine on its own whether they should exist or cease to exist. We should have followed that same principle at AIG as well as GM and Chrysler.
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