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Old 06-17-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Do so now, or be proven to be a liar. Your choice.
Ahhh the "proven liar" tactic. One cannot be a liar based on opinion. But if you have to resort to name calling then it's because you can't defend your position and have to resort to attacking the messenger.

The difference between my opinion and your opinion is I have something to point to while you have nothing but three words.

Try using that line in front of the Supreme Court. "Your Honors if you do not agree with me you are a proven liar."
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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You are arguing with synthetic pathetics.
More like pathetic synthetics.

Horizontally modified organisms.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Ahhh the "proven liar" tactic. One cannot be a liar based on opinion. But if you have to resort to name calling then it's because you can't defend your position and have to resort to attacking the messenger.

The difference between my opinion and your opinion is I have something to point to while you have nothing but three words.

Try using that line in front of the Supreme Court. "Your Honors if you do not agree with me you are a proven liar."
It's not name calling, and it's not a tactic.

Rather, it is fact naming.

Live with it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm going to stick with the premise that the exact words do not have to be used.
Income Taxes don't really have to be paid, do they? People can just ignore the Constitution's tax amendment because, to put it in your words... "It does not matter," and "exact words do not have to be used."

By the way, you've admitted you're wrong by now claiming that "exact words do not have to be used."

It would be great if we could really go by that line of logic because instead of Obama being president, since words don't really mean anything specific, we can just refer to him and treat him as the failed commuity organizer has-been he really is. I'll use YOUR tactics... "It does not matter," and "exact words do not have to be used."
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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It says exactly what I think it does.
Oh, now you're abandoning your earlier premises of "it does not matter," and "exact words do not have to be used?"

Good! We're finally getting somewhere! Quote the law defining "natural born citizen" word for word and post the link.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Ahhh the "proven liar" tactic. One cannot be a liar based on opinion.
No one asked for your opinion. You claimed the law defined "natural born citizen." Quote that law word for word and post the link, or prove yourself to be a liar.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You posted a website describing citizenship. The Constitutional requirement for POTUS is "natural born citizen," not just "citizen."
Since the US Constitution recognizes only two classes of citizen (naturalized and natural born) the website he posted was adequate for his purpose.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If what the dumbed-down proclaim to be true were actually true, the requirement would merely have been "born citizen."
I'm always amused at your efforts to retroactively order the Framers of the Constitution around. It is a combination of delusional hubris and historical ignorance unique to your posts in this droll forum.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Um... You DO know that the 1790 "natural born citizen" provision was repealed in 1795, don't you?
Wrong. It was not repealed. It was replaced with a later law that simply chose to use other language. The intention and understanding of the first Congress (poulated overwhelmingly by Framers) still remains explicit in the historical record represented by the 1790 law.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Again, post the U.S. Code which defines "natural born citizen."
Natural born citizen is not defined by the US Code.

Who is or is not a natural born citizen, however, is.
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