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Number of Americans killed by terrorist attacks 1999-2010 3,000
Number of Americans killed by guns 1999-2010 364,000
The fact that I hear so many on the right say "we have to allow the government to spy", in spite of the 4th amendment to remain safe, yet then hear them claim gun control is unconstitutional show they cherry pick the constitution. Far more Americans are killed by guns than terror attacks. So if we use number of Americans killed as a priority, would it not be logical to start with gun control?
For the record I am not for diminished 2nd or 4th amendments. They were put there for a reason.
Number of Americans killed by terrorist attacks 1999-2010 3,000
Number of Americans killed by guns 1999-2010 364,000
The fact that I hear so many on the right say "we have to allow the government to spy", in spite of the 4th amendment to remain safe, yet then hear them claim gun control is unconstitutional show they cherry pick the constitution. Far more Americans are killed by guns than terror attacks. So if we use number of Americans killed as a priority, would it not be logical to start with gun control?
For the record I am not for diminished 2nd or 4th amendments. They were put there for a reason.
First of all - why are you targeting conservatives in your post? Do you think conservatives as a group somehow support the NSA spying? I don't think they do. I am appalled by the intrusions into our lives. It shocks me more than just a bit how Congress defends it - both Dems and Repubs.
I disagree with a key point made by that author. I don't actually believe Americans are crazy afraid of terrorism. The media (of which he is a part) hype Americans fear. I don't look over my shoulder for terrorists. I figure an earthquake would be more likely to hurt me on a visit to California.
The attempts to compare cause of deaths routinely fail to include lifestyle choices - such as cigarettes, obesity, etc. All of those kinds of things cause vastly more people to die than firearms or terrorists. Even in the firearm category - people react to mass shootings - but they are rare. I honestly do not believe suicides should be included when talking about deaths by firearms. Suicides are not a threat to me or my family because they are self induced. Not from anyone else.
Number of Americans killed by terrorist attacks 1999-2010 3,000
Number of Americans killed by guns 1999-2010 364,000
The fact that I hear so many on the right say "we have to allow the government to spy", in spite of the 4th amendment to remain safe, yet then hear them claim gun control is unconstitutional show they cherry pick the constitution. Far more Americans are killed by guns than terror attacks. So if we use number of Americans killed as a priority, would it not be logical to start with gun control?
For the record I am not for diminished 2nd or 4th amendments. They were put there for a reason.
I'm as "right wing" as they come and I was against the Patriot Act under Bush and I against the NSA spying on me now.
Where have you heard someone on the right saying this? Based on most of the gun threads here, the "right wing nut jobs" have a huge distrust of the government.
First of all - why are you targeting conservatives in your post? Do you think conservatives as a group somehow support the NSA spying? I don't think they do. I am appalled by the intrusions into our lives. It shocks me more than just a bit how Congress defends it - both Dems and Repubs.
I disagree with a key point made by that author. I don't actually believe Americans are crazy afraid of terrorism. The media (of which he is a part) hype Americans fear. I don't look over my shoulder for terrorists. I figure an earthquake would be more likely to hurt me on a visit to California.
The attempts to compare cause of deaths routinely fail to include lifestyle choices - such as cigarettes, obesity, etc. All of those kinds of things cause vastly more people to die than firearms or terrorists. Even in the firearm category - people react to mass shootings - but they are rare. I honestly do not believe suicides should be included when talking about deaths by firearms. Suicides are not a threat to me or my family because they are self induced. Not from anyone else.
I think because it is conservatives who cite the constitution. You can not compare suicide, obesity, cigarettes which are self induced. Guns and terrorism issue is talking about them killing of Americans not by choice.
Number of Americans killed by terrorist attacks 1999-2010 3,000
Number of Americans killed by guns 1999-2010 364,000
The fact that I hear so many on the right say "we have to allow the government to spy", in spite of the 4th amendment to remain safe, yet then hear them claim gun control is unconstitutional show they cherry pick the constitution. Far more Americans are killed by guns than terror attacks. So if we use number of Americans killed as a priority, would it not be logical to start with gun control?
For the record I am not for diminished 2nd or 4th amendments. They were put there for a reason.
This is nothing new. So called conservatives also routinely take a dump on the 1st amendment when it comes to things like separation of church and state, "obscenity", and numerous other things that get their panties in a bunch. This is why I've supported the Libertarian party for over 25 years. While Libertarian's are not perfect, at least they're consistent in their beliefs.
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Who you kidding? Most libs wouldn't know the constitution if it bit them on the arse.
You apparently are doing a fine job of kidding yourself.
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