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Old 07-06-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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I believe there is plenty of evidence that Zim lied, I can only hope the jury acknowleges it.
I think it was proven that Casey Anthony was the best liar of all time. Didn't seem to hurt her one bit.

 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:27 PM
 
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I think where you are going to run into problems with all this is the part about IMO... I think IYO is not going to hold much water with the jury, given the prosecutions poor performance.
I disagree. I think the closing arguments will tie all the parts together, and I think the closing arguments will have considerable influence on the jury. It won't be my opinions argued, but the jury will consider the State's evidence, and that's what I've come away with from listening to the State's case.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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Then let's see what the defense pathologist says.

IMO, you'd be taking a huge risk. I don't think dad does "fake" crying, but don't know. Yes, it's very easy for a jury to pick up on real emotions in a courtroom, so "fake crying" would not be advisable.

IMO, the most critical thing about the screaming on the tape is that it STOPPED immediately after the gunshot was heard. I think it's pretty easy to make the case that if someone were shot through the heart at "contact" range, they would no longer be able to scream and the screaming would immediately stop. However, not so easy to explain WHY after having shot someone and claiming that he didn't know he had hit his target, why the person with the gun would STOP screaming if he were the one screaming all along. If he didn't know he hit his target, wouldn't he still need help, and wouldn't he still have that adrenaline rush from "fear" required to scream like that for help, help, help?
No reason to keep screaming when the attacker stops his assault.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Maybe that lunatic Frank called him to tell him.
You ask an interesting question....
Here is the interview I mentioned during which Frank Taffe says the first place George saw Trayvon Martin that night was in Frank's own front yard (approx 4:49 on video)....My question on Travon calling Zimmerman a "Creepy a** Crack - YouTube

Does anyone know where Frank's house is located, especially in relation to the Clubhouse area where George states during his Non Emergency call that he spots Trayvon???

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Old 07-06-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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No reason to keep screaming when the attacker stops his assault.

He decided to shut up and shoot.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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No reason to keep screaming when the attacker stops his assault.
Fear is not "reason." Fear is EMOTION.

If one is reasonably in fear of losing his/her life and so afraid that one is SCREAMING, "help, help, help" it is in fact very unreasonable to think that the person would STOP screaming if he/she got the upper hand on the attacker but believed the attacker was STILL ALIVE, as Zimmerman has stated he believed. Actually it is more reasonable to believe it would be almost impossible to stop screaming IMMEDIATELY. It's kind of like being hysterical.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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Obviously the gun shot to the heart with a hollow point bullet stopped the screaming.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Obviously the gun shot to the heart stopped the screaming.
Apparently that's not what investigators believed after several interviews with GZ and giving him a lie detector test.
 
Old 07-06-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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I think the investigators statements that they believed his story will carry a lot of weight. Too bad the lie detector test won't be admissible.

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Old 07-06-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Apparently that's not what investigators believed after several interviews with GZ and giving him a lie detector test.
In this case, I do not find those "investigators" to be very credible. Again, that opinion is based on my belief that there's "institutional racism" in the law enforcement offices in Sanford. I believe Serino had to "change" his story if he wanted to keep his job after this case is over and the dust settled. In fact, he did get demoted even though he claims it was a lateral movement. And there's a reason lie detector tests are not admissible in court.
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