Zimmerman Trial Part 4

[UpperDecker30]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Thats the point the GZ supporters refuse to acknowledge. They will say It isn't against the law to follow people.

I am not a Zimmerman "supporter", but didn't Martin have enough time to get home without Zimmerman knowing when he had lost him?

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by MrSykes

Zimmerman's mountain of lies and inconsistencies pretty much satisfy that burden on its own. He also did a great job of humanizing Trayvon, which was crucial. Guy essentially took the concept of self-defense from Zimmerman and applied it directly to the victim where it belonged.

I agree with you about the lies. GZ told a good many of them. That said I also believe 1 thing and pretty much only 1 thing that GZ has said. He was afraid for his life. I don't believe that he started the night out with the intent to shoot anyone. I believe he meant to show what a good watch captain he was and show the police he was one of them. It spiraled out of control the minute he came face to face with Martin. Who hit who first or touched who first we really don't know. Maybe GZ made a rude remark and TM punched him for it. WE don't know. Maybe TM made a creepy cracker remark and GZ used a racist rebuttal. We don't know.
I do believe that GZ was afraid for his life. Snitches tend to be very scared people at heart.
I don't believe he was badly beaten, he was barely roughed up. Some people scare easy. Never been in battle and never faced a beat down. They freeze. GZ appears to have frozen for the most part. At some point he remembered he had a gun and used it. I believe out of fear for his life.
Nothing noble or brave just scared.

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by UpperDecker30

I am not a Zimmerman "supporter", but didn't Martin have enough time to get home without Zimmerman knowing when he had lost him?

Yes.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by UpperDecker30

I am not a Zimmerman "supporter", but didn't Martin have enough time to get home without Zimmerman knowing when he had lost him?

we dont know what TM was thinking. He might have thought GZ knew where he was at or would see where he was if he moved.
I think back to when I was a kid. My friends and I throwing snow balls at cars. We would get chased. Even if we lost the car owner we didn't go home in fear he would see us if we moved from our hide.
As some have pointed out GZ never should have left his vehicle. At one point he had 4 minutes to get back to his vehicle. Its a 2 way street here. Both had the same options and both declined those options.

[Orlandochuck1]

Originally Posted by UpperDecker30

I am not a Zimmerman "supporter", but didn't Martin have enough time to get home without Zimmerman knowing when he had lost him?

Over 4 minutes to go less than 500 feet.

[JanND]

Good tactic by defense leaving up those cut outs.

[Ibginnie]

Please move to new thread