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Old 07-13-2013, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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1) Zimmerman is not "proven innocent", just not proven guilty based on the evidence.

2) "Only in America can a black man be put on trial for his own murder." NYT

 
Old 07-13-2013, 11:58 PM
 
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What an asinine statement.
Try it out sometime. Unless there is a witness the party with no visible marks is going to jail.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Are you saying that if you are attacked by someone and they break your nose and then are on top of you raining down blows "MMA style", punching and/or banging your head into the ground that it is wrong for you to defend yourself and that you are supposed to let that person murder you or render you permanently mentally retarded?
I thought Zimmerman was the MMA fighter? Why is this all of a sudden attributed to Trayvon?
 
Old 07-13-2013, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Again... No police officer gave George Zimmerman direction and according to the tape and his testimony when directed to do so, Zimmerman began proceeding back in the direction of his vehicle...
"You don't need to do that" is a clear message that he shouldn't be chasing TM. The police conveyed what they wanted him to do, he chose to ignore their recommendation. Are you disputing that?

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There really no reason to believe GZ pushed TM, the state would have introduced that if they had any semi logical evidence.
Of course. There's no reason to believe that the guy who chased down a stranger in the neighborhood would do something as extreme as pushing him. I'm not even saying that's what happened. But the blind adherence to GZ word means that you discount that as EVEN a possibility.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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1) Zimmerman is not "proven innocent", just not proven guilty based on the evidence.

2) "Only in America can a black man be put on trial for his own murder." NYT
It is innocent until proven guilty. If not proven guilty, then the person is innocent.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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That Zimmerman was a MMA fighter is laughable at best..
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Michissippi
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I thought Zimmerman was the MMA fighter? Why is this all of a sudden attributed to Trayvon?
Because Trayvon didn't have a scratch on him (other than on his knuckles) and an eyewitness testified that he was on top of Zimmerman "MMA style".
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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1) Zimmerman is not "proven innocent", just not proven guilty based on the evidence.

2) "Only in America can a black man be put on trial for his own murder." NYT

Zimmerman was innocent and the Not Guilty confirmed this fact.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Sorry don't like it move to Pakistan.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:02 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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So much butt hurt in here, lol
 
Old 07-14-2013, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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"You don't need to do that" is a clear message that he shouldn't be chasing TM. The police conveyed what they wanted him to do, he chose to ignore their recommendation. Are you disputing that?



Of course. There's no reason to believe that the guy who chased down a stranger in the neighborhood would do something as extreme as pushing him. I'm not even saying that's what happened. But the blind adherence to GZ word means that you discount that as EVEN a possibility.

Yes I am disputing that.. The (unedited version) of the 911 tape gives pretty clear indication that at that point Zimmerman stopped his pursuit..
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