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Old 07-14-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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Actually, I am very afraid. Here in AZ, there are MANY unsavory characters who open carry their guns and I always hope and pray that these individuals are somewhat mentally stable.
Have there been lots of shootings by these people legally open carrying? Just asking, I'm not in your state.
I know these "unsavory" characters were fingerprinted, photoed, FBI background checked, and passed firearm proficiency tests.

 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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George Zimmerman's hands were guided by evil, not by God. Considering that George Zimmerman had been arrested for violent offenses three times prior to killing TM tells me that he will see a jail cell at some point in the future.
What of T.M.'s sordid past? Wouldn't your theory also state that T.M. may have met his justice?

The bottom line in this is two people collided that night, both made mistakes in their past as well as that night and it cost one of 'em their life.

What this does point out is it's completely insane to give a damn about anyone other than your family or immediate surroundings. Neighbors? On their own, too bad. If a perceived threat passes your sphere of existence close the door and let it go, let "the other guy' deal with it.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Actually, I am very afraid. Here in AZ, there are MANY unsavory characters who open carry their guns and I always hope and pray that these individuals are somewhat mentally stable.
Well, if they are open carrying, they are probably legal. As long as you don't attack them,
you'll probably be alright.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I have three boys, ages 19, 24, and 26. Their "take away" from this is "Don't walk to the store wearing a hoodie, or you may get stalked because someone doesn't like the way you look." What am I supposed to tell them - run? Call 9-1-1? Whatever you do, don't confront the aggressor? Run or hide as if you are guilty, or you may get shot? Guilty of what - wearing a hoodie? Having a dark skin tone? Being young?

Sad times.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:01 AM
 
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This was an interesting case to me primarily because I stayed away from the news and talking heads before and during the trial. I made up my mind solely based on the presentation of the evidence at trial, as many of you know. I must say that when the prosecution rested, I did not believe Zimmerman was guilty of murder 2. Manslaughter - I was not sure on and am still not 100% sure which way I would have voted if I were on the jury.

However, I finally watched the news programs this morning. Um - wow! I guess I can see why some people were so passionate about this trial because some news stations are really ramping up the emotions (AND using absolutely incorrect information I might add). To me, this is the greatest tragedy of all. The media has led to further polarization on this trial and race relations in this country. It's shameful what the media is allowed to do and get away with in this country.

Martin's family is heartbroken, as would anyone's be. Of course they do not want to believe that their own son had anything to do with his own death. However, it's the media's abuse of their grief that is so disgusting.

"I guess I can see why some people were so passionate about this trial because some news stations are really ramping up the emotions ... To me, this is the greatest tragedy of all."

Interesting. I think to most of us the "greatest tragedy of all" is that a 17 year old boy is DEAD, a kid who was doing nothing other than walking home when he was "sighted" by someone who decided he "looked suspicious."
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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What of T.M.'s sordid past? Wouldn't your theory also state that T.M. may have met his justice?

The bottom line in this is two people collided that night, both made mistakes in their past as well as that night and it cost one of 'em their life.

What this does point out is it's completely insane to give a damn about anyone other than your family or immediate surroundings. Neighbors? On their own, too bad. If a perceived threat passes your sphere of existence close the door and let it go, let "the other guy' deal with it.
Zimmerman called 9-1-1, as perhaps he should have, and then ignored their logical instructions and went looking for a confrontation, which he got. He's a damn fool and now someone is dead at his hand.

My only comfort in this is that everybody's chickens come home to roost, and Zimmerman's life is far from over, unlike Trayvon Martin's.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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TRANSLATION: Be afraid, be very afraid, because you never know who is carrying a gun nor do you know whether or not a person carrying a gun has decided they don't like your looks and then will use that gun to kill you. "Behave".....your word for FEAR. Again, the lesson for all of us is to be afraid, very, very afraid when out in public.
You owe people on this board an apology. You have been very arrogant when confronted with your erroneous interpretation of the law.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Have there been lots of shootings by these people legally open carrying? Just asking, I'm not in your state.
Yes. But lets start with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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I have three boys, ages 19, 24, and 26. Their "take away" from this is "Don't walk to the store wearing a hoodie, or you may get stalked because someone doesn't like the way you look." What am I supposed to tell them - run? Call 9-1-1? Whatever you do, don't confront the aggressor? Run or hide as if you are guilty, or you may get shot? Guilty of what - wearing a hoodie? Having a dark skin tone? Being young?

Sad times.
Tell them not to attack anyone.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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I have three boys, ages 19, 24, and 26. Their "take away" from this is "Don't walk to the store wearing a hoodie, or you may get stalked because someone doesn't like the way you look." What am I supposed to tell them - run? Call 9-1-1? Whatever you do, don't confront the aggressor? Run or hide as if you are guilty, or you may get shot? Guilty of what - wearing a hoodie? Having a dark skin tone? Being young?

Sad times.
Tell them to leap from the bushes screeching, "You gonna die tonight!" And nearly kill anyone who dares walk behind them.
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