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Old 08-03-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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Soledad O'Brien is NOT even African American. Her mother is a darker toned mulatta woman from Cuba. Her father is Australian of direct Irish descent. Both of her parents are immigrant.

I respect how people choose to identify or how they change their identity but I would never support one's defense of the very racist one drop rule.
This argument is very confusing for me. You are correct the one drop rule is racist, but thats because the whole idea of race is racist.

I never understand people who wail against how wrong the one drop rule is but don't wail against how wrong all racial categories and labels are.

One conclusion should naturally lead to the other.

People don't choose their racial identities.

If that were the case Wesley Snipes would be able to choose to be white if he so desired, but of course he can't, because racial identity isn't a choice.

Racial identity is a social construct forced upon non white people for the most part to establish a white racial identity which is based on white supremacy.

Yet for whatever reason when we discuss race historical reality is completely ignored.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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People don't choose their racial identities.

No, they do not.

The Racial Draft - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Soledad O'Brien has informative programs on CNN explaining what it means.
yeah because she just stepped off the amistad, didnt she...
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:21 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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yeah because she just stepped off the amistad, didnt she...
So by your definition, no living person can define it ????
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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For people that decry profiling based on race they sure demand a tremendous amount of group think based on race.
What an absolutely EXCELLENT comment! So true! Rep to you.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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Soledad O'Brien is NOT even African American. Her mother is a darker toned mulatta woman from Cuba. Her father is Australian of direct Irish descent. Both of her parents are immigrant.

I respect how people choose to identify or how they change their identity but I would never support one's defense of the very racist one drop rule.
Soledad is "Black" like George Zimmerman or Ben Jealous tho most Black people claim Ben never mind he's pretty damn "white" in color.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:02 PM
 
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Soledad is "Black" like George Zimmerman or Ben Jealous tho most Black people claim Ben never mind he's pretty damn "white" in color.

This whole idea of black people claiming someone is wholly irrelevant to any individual person's racial categorization in America.

Many biracial people with one black parent are considered black because white supremacist culture and American society labels them black.

What black people desire is besides the point in determining whom American identifies as black.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:03 AM
 
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Soledad is "Black" like George Zimmerman or Ben Jealous tho most Black people claim Ben never mind he's pretty damn "white" in color.
Neither one is black. Don Lemon, who recently has sucked up to O'Reilly, isn't black. They're either mulatto or octurooons.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:09 AM
 
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So, a gay white person who is only slightly different from the majority of the mainstream doesn't know what it's like to be looked at as different? Or how about Latinos? Or Jews?

I think the "black experience" is nothing more than blacks whining with this "woo is me" mindset and refusing to believe that they are not the only ones on Earth who face discrimination.

You're a mulatto, so why do you care about how we pure blood blacks view society?
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:10 AM
 
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This whole idea of black people claiming someone is wholly irrelevant to any individual person's racial categorization in America.

Many biracial people with one black parent are considered black because white supremacist culture and American society labels them black.

What black people desire is besides the point in determining whom American identifies as black.
No, it is not white people sticking to the one drop rule, it's the blacks:

"[A majority of whites and mixed-race Americans, and a third of blacks, conceptualize Obama as mixed-race."

-The Significance of Mixed-Race: Public Perceptions of Barack Obama's Race and the Effect of Obama's Race on Favorability by Samuel Sinyangwe :: SSRN

So Majority of whites, latinos and mixed people think a mixed president isn't black, but most blacks think he is.

White America doesn't consider mixed people black, it considers us mixed. Not black, but not white either. We are treated as another non-white racial group.

And the whole one drop thing was invented by white supremacy, but is kept alive, when it's convenient, by blacks. Maria Carey has a hit song? She's black...George Zimmerman kills a black kid in self defense? "well, he's a creepy ass cracker"
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