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Old 08-19-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Parents should have option of taking kids with them. If not, legal family members in U.S. can adopt.
That's usually the way it works. Either the kids go with the parents or stay with legal relatives. If the children leave they are still a US citizens and can return when they are older.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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Put em to work at Walmart and Apple.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?
Wow, is this rocket science? Uh, the kids should go back with the parents is what should happen.

The law needs to be changed to match that of other industrialized countries. Children born to people that are not U.S. citizens are citizens of the same country their parents are citizens to. If they are both here from Mexico illegally, their children would be Mexican citizens, the children cannot be denied citizenship of Mexico since both parents are legal Mexicans.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Others have summed it up well. They can leave with the parents and have the option of returning later or they can stay with other caregivers in the U.S.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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The only problem --- Obama halted all deportations except for the very violent criminal types so this is almost a non-issue. They're all here and being told to stay so they can get their nice amnesty, food stamps, and easy US citizenship.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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DHS has taken the kids away from the parents in the past and placed the children into adoption. The US should not be in the business of separating families unless the parents choose to allow the US to do so.

Immigrant Children Face Uncertain Futures, Foster Care

The DHS should make every effort to keep the children with the parents as the parents are being deported. When the child turns 18 they have a choice to make, within 6 months of their turning of age they must choose which citizenship they want, that of their parents or that of the US. If they do not decide or have not made attempts to return to the US by then, then they should be considered the other citizenship.

It is not the responsibility of the US to raise their children here, unless the parents choose to allow for adoption here.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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Why is there controversy? Deported people aren't being put into jail.

The kids can go with the parents. This doesn't mean the KIDS are being deported, and they can come back at 18 or whenever they want.

Or is there a law we don't know about that kids born in the United States are not allowed to leave the confines of the borders?
You are one of the few people who get it.

Parents leave a given country all the time and take their children with them. Since when is that problematic?

As US citizens, the children have the right to return whenever they want for as along as they want.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Deport the parents. Pitch the kids in foster care. If they want to take their kids they are welcome, of course.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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You're getting the idea.

It's the parents' decision to make. If they want the 3- and 4-year-old kids to stay in the U.S., and can find suitable accomodations for them there (other legal U.S. family members etc.), then the kids should stay. If the parents want to take the kids to Mexico with them, then the kids should go with them.

The point is, IT'S THE PARENTS' DECISION where the kids will go. The government has nothing to do with that part of it.

This thread was opened in pre-emptive response to the open-borders fanatics who, when parents get deported and kids stay, will scream "See? See? The government is cruel and heartless, the government is breaking up this family, U.S. laws are breaking up this family!!!"

Note to open-borders screamers: The government (and U.S. law) had nothing to do with where the kids went. The parents created the situation where they were deported and the kids weren't; and the parents have the option of keeping their kids with them as they leave. If the family is "being broken up", it's because the parents decided the family should be broken up. Not the U.S. government.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We have a family friend whose daughter married an undocumented worker who had been in the U.S. since he was a child. Together, they had a child born in the U.S. To make a long story short, he was deported and his U.S. born wife and child decided to follow him. They now reside in Mexico and are beyond dirt poor.

This is not all that uncommon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/wo...anted=all&_r=0
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