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It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?
An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.
Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.
What happens to the kids?
The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?
I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?
This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.
It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)
So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.
The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?
Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?
Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?
The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?
Their kids should be deported with their parents if they want to remain with their parents. If not, they should be able to stay here and try to get adopted or something.
Their kids should be deported with their parents if they want to remain with their parents. If not, they should be able to stay here and try to get adopted or something.
How can 3- and 4-year-old kids "try to get adopted or something"?
I think the relevant question here is:
What did their parents plan for them, in the event the parents got caught violating U.S. immigration law?
Last edited by Little-Acorn; 08-19-2013 at 12:08 PM..
They are the responsibility of the parents. If the parents can arrange for them to be cared for in the United States, they have that option. Or if the parents want to take their children with them, they have that option. It should be up to the parents, not up to the government.
They are the responsibility of the parents. If the parents can arrange for them to be cared for in the United States, they have that option. Or if the parents want to take their children with them, they have that option. It should be up to the parents, not up to the government.
Certainly the good parents who actually love their kids would want to take them home with them when they go. I can't imagine Americans working or stationed in Germany or S. Korea just packing up and abandoning their own kids.
There are illegals though who only had children so they could use them to get around the immigration laws and also had them only because of the generous government handouts they bring in. Those parents may no longer want those children when they aren't as profitable for them.
In that case the kids are better off without the creeps they have for parents and should be placed for adoption.
I would hope that would be a small number of kids. I would hope the illegals aren't that conniving that they would just abandon their own kids.
This is the problem with the anchor baby issue that Obama's amnesty doesn't begin to address.
Large numbers of illegals come here to give birth figuring that they will now be rewarded with legal status, welfare handouts and US citizenship.
These irresponsible illegals are not better than those illegals who leave their children home and come here and send money back, they don't bring their kids because they know they can't afford to raise them here, and they're not after the welfare handouts. Simply by breeding, should not get certain illegals a free pass. The breeders are less inclined to work for a living because often they're after the welfare handouts that having kids bring them. Also they can't afford the high cost of day care here even if they would work.
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