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View Poll Results: Intelligent Design?
Yes, teach it along with Evolution 22 15.28%
No, teach only Evolution 121 84.03%
No, teach only Intelligent Design 1 0.69%
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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I think we might have different definitions of what is science....clearly your science involves magic and fiction.
Keep man made global warming out of it.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Did I mention that?

What are you afraid of? Children forming their own opinions?

If you placed a glass of water on a table in a room and had each child enter the room and answer the following question....."did an intelligent being leave that there or did it just pop into existence?" What would the majority of answers be?
A person left the glass of water there, not a fictional being. Seriously, who buys into these silly fairy tale gods and tries to pass it off as science?
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Keep man made global warming out of it.
Did your fictional sky fairy tell you global warming doesn't exist?
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Here and There
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I'm not sure we will ever know how it all began, but I bet it was amazing. Not to be rude, but ID is ridiculous. I would be very irritated if I found religion in my child's science book. You want religious doctrine? Go to church.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Intelligent design is far more reasonable than your "pop" theory.
I don't have a 'pop' theory. That's your silly straw man again.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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As an alternative theory to Darwin evolution?
From what I have seen in religubots, intelligence is not involved whatsoever.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Did you ever present the question to your kids as to how we got here? If you present it in such a way....they won't stop at the theory of evolution. And they absolutely should not. And that kind of critical thinking is what needs to be instilled at the earliest age possible, IMO.
I agree with this. There is much more science about how we got here than just biological evolution.

Abiogenesis, planetary formation, stellar formation, the big bang and the evolution of our universe - all figure into where humans ultimately came from.

Children should be encouraged to learn about all of these at early ages. That's what I plan on doing with my own, who are just now learning to talk.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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As an alternative theory to Darwin evolution?
It is not science based so, no, it has no place in a science classroom. Also it has been completely debunked as nothing but creationism renamed; as in literally the crap company which came up with the term just went through one of their creationism "textbooks" and replaced the word creationism with "intelligent design". It was an attempt to get around a court ruling which said Biblical creationism (the old god just snapped his fingers and poof "theory") was a completely religious based idea without any shread of scientific validity and therefor nothing called creationism could be taught in public school science classrooms. Thus the desire of the religious nutjobs to rename creationism to "intelligent design" which literally is the exact same thing and is just as worthless and without merit.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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I agree with this. There is much more science about how we got here than just biological evolution.

Abiogenesis, planetary formation, stellar formation, the big bang and the evolution of our universe - all figure into where humans ultimately came from.

Children should be encouraged to learn about all of these at early ages. That's what I plan on doing with my own, who are just now learning to talk.
I recently watched a TV program about intelligent design. One of the main presenters was a physicist from Penn State University. He's also a Christian and believes in Intelligent Design. He wasn't the only scientist either....just the main one.

I found the program very thought provoking even though I am an Atheist.

One very interesting concept that was explained was how there is an actual mathematical model which takes into account the time period since Earth was "created", the number of different species of life there ever has been on Earth, and the likelihood of exactly how many variations evolution would need to create to get to where we are today.

In other words, if you accept Darwin's theory on evolution and mathematically figure how many random mutations it would take over time to get to today, there simply isn't enough time since Earth has existed to make the theory work.

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Old 08-22-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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As an alternative theory to Darwin evolution?
It's not a theory. The continued attempt by some to characterize it as such is a perversion of science and it lacks academic integrity. "Intelligent design" is hokus pokus. A Trojan horse attempt to get God back into schools.

So, no, absolutely not.
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