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Old 08-25-2013, 10:10 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Originally Posted by thenewtexan View Post
So,let me get this straight: The restaurant took the side of one paranoid customer over 25 paying customers? (doing the math, doing the math) That's just bad bu$ine$$! The manager is an idiot. If they were threatening to the white patron, she should have just called the cops. Obviously her complaint had no merit, because she never really followed through to actually being "intimidated" or threatened. Now the restaurant is backpedaling. It's pretty obvious what this is about.

If the 25 black people was LOUD and AGGRESSIVE then I would be intimidated too and i;m black lol

 
Old 08-25-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Charleston could hardly be described as "backward". It's comical you would think so. North Charleston, the town where this took place is part of the Charleston metro area. Even though it is majority black and lower income, I still wouldn't call it backward.

As I've stated before, there's something 'off' about the initial claim as was presented. From what I understand now, this all seemed to stem from some altercation between the white woman that was 'scared' per the manager and one of the group. Basically sounds like the whole thing was a mess and was handled poorly all around. Sounds to me like the charge of racism was quick to be thrown but as more facts come out, that might not have been the case at all - or maybe it was. Either way, as many stated earlier in the thread, there's always two sides to a story as seems to be the case here. It would be 'backwards' to cast an aspersion on an entire area without even knowing all of the facts first.
You are doing yeoman's work here but try to keep them focused. Explain one more time that this is pretty small, very popular BAR and Grill that is known as a Music Venue. They don't take reservations - the party of 25 had been in this BAR for 2 hours on a busy night ..... there is a possibility they might have had a drink or two during that 2 hour wait for a table. There is a possibility they might have gotten a bit rowdy .... and then there are the posts on Facebook about one of the party of 25 claiming that this "white woman attacked her" while they were waiting for their table - and that they had "words" about it. None of this makes sense on many levels.

This is looking like it's all about Paula Deen'ing the Wild Wings Cafe - The Wild Wings is owned by a group of Charleston Businessmen. By the way - the Paula Deen case has been dismissed and the woman that sued her (and tried to destroy her career) has 'apologized'. IF the Leftist Media doesn't jump on this Wild Wings bandwagon, then the Party of 25 will have no chance of an "acceptable" restitution in their minds. Al and Jesse are busy in Washington this week with all the MLK celebrations, Brown could have picked a better time for his attack on Wild Wings.

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Good food, RACIST attitude! Good thing they weren't wearing hoodies they could have been SHOT by your RACIST Manager. This is trhe 2010s not the 1950s. And AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE 50TH ANNEVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON! WE NEED A MARCH ON WILD WINGS!~
So .... it sounds like a busy, popular place with decent food, music and a lot of Bar Specials. Will the "boycott" and "march on WW" movements kill their business? I know the folks that are posting on the Facebook page from London probably won't make a lot of difference - the postings pretty much all look like the are not from the Charleston area at all. I think Wild Wings has done well to just let them rant to their heart's content until they find something else to rant about somewhere else.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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You are doing yeoman's work here but try to keep them focused. Explain one more time that this is pretty small, very popular BAR and Grill that is known as a Music Venue. They don't take reservations - the party of 25 had been in this BAR for 2 hours on a busy night ..... there is a possibility they might have had a drink or two during that 2 hour wait for a table. There is a possibility they might have gotten a bit rowdy .... and then there are the posts on Facebook about one of the party of 25 claiming that this "white woman attacked her" while they were waiting for their table - and that they had "words" about it. None of this makes sense on many levels.

This is looking like it's all about Paula Deen'ing the Wild Wings Cafe - The Wild Wings is owned by a group of Charleston Businessmen. By the way - the Paula Deen case has been dismissed and the woman that sued her (and tried to destroy her career) has 'apologized'. IF the Leftist Media doesn't jump on this Wild Wings bandwagon, then the Party of 25 will have no chance of an "acceptable" restitution in their minds. Al and Jesse are busy in Washington this week with all the MLK celebrations, Brown could have picked a better time for his attack on Wild Wings.

So .... it sounds like a busy, popular place with decent food, music and a lot of Bar Specials. Will the "boycott" and "march on WW" movements kill their business? I know the folks that are posting on the Facebook page from London probably won't make a lot of difference - the postings pretty much all look like the are not from the Charleston area at all. I think Wild Wings has done well to just let them rant to their heart's content until they find something else to rant about somewhere else.
It's an extremely popular local chain here in Charleston. This supposed incident won't have any impact whatsoever on the business there. This story didn't even make the local paper, the Post and Courier. Only news channel that covered it was Channel 5 - so only one out of three. It was a quick blurb and done even there. And yes, the wings ARE that good!!!
 
Old 08-25-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Very weird if true. This is discrimination plain and simple. Odd to see it happen too in Charleston considering it's so historic and touristy.

Unfortunately this is going to play right into the ignorant people that think "the south is racist" myth. I've lived in the south most of my life, racism is rare down here despite common misconception.
What a joke.
Violence and discrimination were rampant in the south.
See Brown v. Board of Education.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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This should make Rand Paul very happy. This is the type of America that he would like to bring back.
No, he doesn't, you are fool if you believe that.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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A groundless lie? Rand Paul has publicly stated that he would like to overturn the Civil Rights Act and restore the ability of business owners to discriminate based on race if they so choose.
You are wrong, Rand has stated he wants property rights restored to home and business owners that the civil rights act destroyed.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Look, there are a lot of facts we don't know, mainly whether or not the group was really
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acting in a disruptive manner
that justified denying them service.

But it's interesting to watch all of the conservatives immediately assume that justice is on the side of the white folks...and the liberals immediately side with the other...
This would not surprise me.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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It's an extremely popular local chain here in Charleston. This supposed incident won't have any impact whatsoever on the business there. This story didn't even make the local paper, the Post and Courier. Only news channel that covered it was Channel 5 - so only one out of three. It was a quick blurb and done even there. And yes, the wings ARE that good!!!
it doesnt need to cover your paper if it makes national news. people know about it.

the question is will whites keep coming when the racism doesnt affect them like this doesn't

or

will they understand that racism is intolerable and put there money elsewhere. any white visiting that cafe until the white assistant manager is gone is in the former category, that doesn't care about racism towards others as long as it doesnt affect them, and is just part of the problem.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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Look, there are a lot of facts we don't know, mainly whether or not the group was really acting in a disruptive manner that justified denying them service.

But it's interesting to watch all of the conservatives immediately assume that justice is on the side of the white folks...and the liberals immediately side with the other...
Justice is by default on the side of the accused.

The onus to prove guilt and/or culpability is on the side of the 25 to prove they were actually discriminated against.

That's how justice is supposed to work. You did study that elementary concept in school, right?
 
Old 08-25-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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it doesnt need to cover your paper if it makes national news. people know about it.

the question is will whites keep coming when the racism doesnt affect them like this doesn't

or

will they understand that racism is intolerable and put there money elsewhere. any white visiting that cafe until the white assistant manager is gone is in the former category, that doesn't care about racism towards others as long as it doesnt affect them, and is just part of the problem.
You have one side of the story only and decide that this restaurant should be boycotted? Turns out that there was an altercation between one of this group and the white woman. From one of the group, she said the white woman stepped on her foot and she began to yell at the white woman. Does that not change the tenor of what happened here?
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