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Old 08-28-2013, 04:56 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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This is something I've noticed and wondered about for a while now. People who tend to be the most supportive of civil rights--regardless of the group--tend to be those on the left. While conservatives tend to be, at best, ambivalent about things like voting rights or issues facing minority communities. Many naively seem to think that there are no racial problems anymore in the United States, and that things like Civil Rights laws are no longer necessary--something which baffles me.


Any thoughts?

 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:07 AM
 
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Why do you feel the need to keep the race baiting issue open? If anything Conservatives are ambivalent because many of the issues facing minority communities are addressed with band-aid solution making them more dependent on a gov't instead of treating them as equals. So who's oppressing who?

I'm not conservative - nor am I liberal - but from reading the forums for the past year - I see a lot of name calling - primarily from libs - race baiting - prim by libs - refusal or ignorance in answering questions posed to them - libs. You think they are supportive of civil rights but most have no clue as to why they support it.

Is there still racism - yes - but the racism I think is more one sided - blacks against whites because they are told how much the Rep or Conservatives are trying to keep them down. Everyone no matter what your race or skin color has every opportunity available to them - if they choose not to use it - you can't blame Conservatives.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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This is something I've noticed and wondered about for a while now. People who tend to be the most supportive of civil rights--regardless of the group--tend to be those on the left. While conservatives tend to be, at best, ambivalent about things like voting rights or issues facing minority communities. Many naively seem to think that there are no racial problems anymore in the United States, and that things like Civil Rights laws are no longer necessary--something which baffles me.


Any thoughts?
Ever stop to think that the government is incapable of solving these issues and that people are capable of solving their own problems without government guidance???

This is something I've noticed: People on the left are so untrusting of their fellow man they look to government to control people's lives in an attempt to force them to behave as they see fit--something that baffles me. (And I'm not just talking about race. They do this with virtually every aspect of our lives.)

It's my belief that government purposely causes racial strife in order to obtain votes and power. If they stayed out of it things would be much better.

I'm not a conservative either but they are not ambivalent about voting rights or civil rights. Non-white people vote by the millions every election. Why do liberals keep talking about a problem that doesn't exist? To perpetuate this myth that certain people (minorities) are not intelligent enough to make it on their own. Then the same liberal acts like they are "enlightened" after basically calling an entire group of people incompetent. Like I said, politicians are the root of the racial problems in this country.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:16 AM
 
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40 years of liberal social policies have destroyed the black community, continue for another 40?

Let me ask you something, you're referring to things like voter ID when you say this?

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ambivalent about things like voting rights
I say to all races we need voter ID to help prevent voter fraud and these laws are going to apply to every individual equally. A liberal says to the black community this is a racist policy, you're incapable of getting an ID for no other reason than being black. Who's the racist?
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:18 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I think 'ambivalent' is being kind.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:24 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Let me ask you something, you're referring to things like voter ID when you say this?
Actually, I was referring to the Supreme Court striking down the Voting Rights Act, myself.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:25 AM
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I think 'ambivalent' is being kind.
Yes, I agree. The right-wing needs to be in denial regarding such issues, because otherwise they'd have to face up to the fact of the rabid immorality of what they support.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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40 years of liberal social policies have destroyed the black community, continue for another 40?

Let me ask you something, you're referring to things like voter ID when you say this?

I say to all races we need voter ID to help prevent voter fraud and these laws are going to apply to every individual equally. A liberal says to the black community this is a racist policy, you're incapable of getting an ID for no other reason than being black. Who's the racist?
You can't show any evidence of voter fraud, can you? Because none exists. But you are in favor of voter disenfranchisement, one step at a time.

You create a problem where none exists.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:44 AM
 
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You can't show any evidence of voter fraud, can you? Because none exists. But you are in favor of voter disenfranchisement, one step at a time.

You create a problem where none exists.

There is evidence of voter fraud, an elections worker in the Cincinnati, OH are was just convicted of 6 counts of voter fraud for both voting in person, and voting via absentee ballot, and voting in names of others. There are other cases out there in the legal process now, and in all cases, the accused parties are Democrats. You can continue to stick your head in the sand and say voter fraud doesn't exist, but people will not stand for false allegations of voter suppression by requiring a photo ID that is provided for free by the state. Here is the one thing no Dem has been able to answer yet, how is requiring a photo ID, that is already required for many everyday transactions going to limit the rights or abilities of a single person legally entitled to vote?
 
Old 08-28-2013, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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voter fraud does exist. You liberals always look for racism where none exists.
Face it, democrats can't win unless you have voter fraud.


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You can't show any evidence of voter fraud, can you? Because none exists. But you are in favor of voter disenfranchisement, one step at a time.

You create a problem where none exists.
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