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Old 08-31-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
Correct and 15/hr is about what the job is worth. Because it's not a lot of money.
So what is the worth of a job which requires a skill set, education, and specialized training? Many of those jobs start at less than $15 an hour.

 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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You dont decide what are the pertinent issues effecting labor and wages. In fact your arguments are all over the spectrum, hypocritical, hysterical unsubstantiated speculation.
Seems clear that campaign finance reform is not the subject of this thread, which is entitled "No fast food on Thursday! Biggest strike in history."

Words like "hysterical" do not scare or intimidate me. Once again, you should look up the definition of speculation......the very word means "unsubstantiated" so it's not possible to speculate and then "substantiate" it. If you did that, it would no longer be speculation. LOL However, I have in fact offered links to sites which do support my position that minimum wages have not been raised since 2009 and that the current minimum wage rate has NOT kept up with the rate of inflation. Also, once again, if opinions and speculation are not allowed on this discussion board, that is something I didn't know.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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$15 is what that labor market demands. Labor is a huge cost for employers so while it isnt much to an individual employee (you) doubling the wages of millions in the industry would kill jobs and business




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Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
Correct and 15/hr is about what the job is worth. Because it's not a lot of money.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by JimRom View Post
So what is the worth of a job which requires a skill set, education, and specialized training? Many of those jobs start at less than $15 an hour.
If the minimum wage law is changed then those jobs will pay whatever is the new minimum wage number.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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Stop dodging and dancing. Your arguments are weak and have been torn to shreds over and over in this thread

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Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000 View Post
Seems clear that campaign finance reform is not the subject of this thread, which is entitled "No fast food on Thursday! Biggest strike in history."

Words like "hysterical" do not scare or intimidate me. Once again, you should look up the definition of speculation......the very word means "unsubstantiated" so it's not possible to speculate and then "substantiate" it. If you did that, it would no longer be speculation. LOL However, I have in fact offered links to sites which do support my position that minimum wages have not been raised since 2009 and that the current minimum wage rate has NOT kept up with the rate of inflation. Also, once again, if opinions and speculation are not allowed on this discussion board, that is something I didn't know.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Not by my definition.

Capitalism > socialism > communism

That's how it evolves.
See what I mean? you're defining what government does again, thank you for that!
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: NJ
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If the minimum wage law is changed then those jobs will pay whatever is the new minimum wage number.
or automate.

Automated kiosks would become more attractive to invest in. ROI years drop, as ROI = Investment/savings per year, raise the latter, while investment stays stagnant, ROI years drop, jobs are eliminated.


http://www.businessinsider.com/burge...dustry-2012-11

And this could kill more jobs.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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See what I mean? you're defining what government does again, thank you for that!
No, I read how it works. I didn't just make it up.
Marx did. A little more reading makes people more knowledgeable.


Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: California
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I didn't notice
 
Old 08-31-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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I think its kind of sad.

We go back 40 years or 50 years. Working at Mcdonalds or . . the wal-mart equivalent. NO one expected these jobs to pay for a family. People made money then, and make money now.

Those days companies like P&G were more powerful of course, with really strong profit margins. There was always someone profiting. . the only change to today is the buying power of Wal-Mart and Target has shifted those profits from the suppliers (P&G) to more even with the retailers.


So when I grew up, and before that, teenagers did these jobs. Singles working through college not families. That is what these jobs are best for. Low labor, low skilled. You don't want to work long. You don't think you can have a family and do these jobs.


So the economy changes, and more people don't have the skills to compete globally. So they start taking these high-school level jobs at wal-mart etc. Somehow you act as if this is wal-marts issue or problem. You point to wal-mart as the big bad

Look, Wal-Mart shouldn't be blamed for "catching" these people

you should instead wonder why we aren't producing people who can compete globally. . .instead of blaming the net that catches the last of these people as they fall through the cracks.
Good post Chris
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