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OMG . You made the case that there were fewer pregnancies in northern states because of abortion, confusing the pregnancy rate with the birth rate. I corrected you. You keep going back to how horrible it is to teach any form of even age appropriate sex education (reproductive health and body safety) in kindergarten, without having even the vaguest idea what it involves. If you think it's up to the parents discretion to decide if molestation is acceptable behavior or not, then I can't help you.
No school can prevent child molestation. Why would you even think that ?
What methods are teachers going to give to 5 year olds to prevent molestation ?
No school can prevent child molestation. Why would you even think that ?
What methods are teachers going to give to 5 year olds to prevent molestation ?
Teaching the children what is molestation and teaching them to tell a trusted adult if it happens to them helps stop the molestation. If I had known about good touch/bad touch and that bad touch wasn't my fault I would have known to tell someone when it happened to me. For that reason alone it is very very important to teach children as early as possible and we cannot trust parents to teach their children this because sometimes its the parents doing it.
Teaching the children what is molestation and teaching them to tell a trusted adult if it happens to them helps stop the molestation. If I had known about good touch/bad touch and that bad touch wasn't my fault I would have known to tell someone when it happened to me. For that reason alone it is very very important to teach children as early as possible and we cannot trust parents to teach their children this because sometimes its the parents doing it.
I would think parents start teaching that at 3 years old.
That's parental neglect not to.
Are we assuming here that parents are not being parents ?
I would think parents start teaching that at 3 years old.
That's parental neglect not to.
Are we assuming here that parents are not being parents ?
I agree that the parents should be teaching it but as has been repeatedly said in this thread, not all parents are responsible enough to do that and sometimes it is the parents that are doing the molesting, they are hardly going to teach their children good touch/bad touch if they're doing the bad touch.
I want all children to be protected, not just the children of good parents who teach them properly.
Well .. if that be the case, then apparently American "progressive" liberals are even dumber than I suggest, if indeed there are so many examples of successful "progressive" education systems in other countries from which they could have mirrored when reforming our American education system. Look, I almost feel guilty here debating you, when you set yourself up so foolishly, using asinine examples like this. It's just another example of surface level analysis that utilizes raw emotion rather than logic and reasoning, which is a common theme among you so called "progressives". Even the term you label yourselves is Orwellian, as there is a connotation that you represent "progress" when indeed you represent just the opposite.
So, either you are wrong about these many successful socialist countries and their progressive policies working great, or you agree that American "progressives" are as dumb as I suggest, given their failure to consider all of those examples, and use that information to be successful here. Either way, that doesn't alter one bit my contention that liberals have miserably failed here, and cannot be trusted to fix their own failures.
If indeed? No need to take my word for it; feel free to look it up. You're the one who said...
Quote:
Now, really pay close attention here .... I cannot begin to list the vast number
of unintended negative consequences produced by the ever well meaning but ill
conceived, hair-brained, idiotic, nonsensical and counterproductive actions of
the modern day liberal movement who believe they have discovered new and better
ways to do virtually everything! This is PARTICULARLY true when it comes to
educating and raising children, if one were to simply look at the results we see
today after several decades of the progressive agenda that has dominated
education, and how we have tumbled from being number 1 in virtually every
measurable metric, to being barely middle of the road, competing now with
developing third world countries. The same is true of the emotional and
psychological development of children today as compared with children 40 years
ago.
I'm agreeing with you...you've fallen way behind so many other countries. Yet you accuse me of using raw emotion?
Shameless grandstanding and diversionary tactics to avoid addressing points you cannot adequately handle, by drawing associations between this nut and his delusions, with the unmistakable and deliberate sexual content covertly embeded in children's films made by Disney.
Oh good grief! It's the exact same thing. This guy sees penises everywhere and so do you. If I was against eggs or the number 7, I could find eggs and the number 7 in every cartoon out there. All you have to do is start with a conclusion and work backwards to make it fit.
The only people that see penises everywhere are the people LOOKING for penises. I never see penises, but then again, I don't freeze frame cartoons, and seek out vague forms in the clouds.
Exactly! I could just as easily say there is Illuminati imagery permeating childrens' cartoons. "Look! That cloud! It kind of looks like an eye! And why are so many things shaped like pyramids?"
Or genetically modified foods...."Look! Those vague shapes look like the letter G, M and O. It's a plot by Monsanto to indoctrinate our kids! The sky is falling!", with the appropriate hand-wringing and paranoia.
Exactly! I could just as easily say there is Illuminati imagery permeating childrens' cartoons. "Look! That cloud! It kind of looks like an eye! And why are so many things shaped like pyramids?"
Or genetically modified foods...."Look! Those vague shapes look like the letter G, M and O. It's a plot by Monsanto to indoctrinate our kids! The sky is falling!", with the appropriate hand-wringing and paranoia.
Subliminal messages and their effects is not all made up.
There are many articles and studies done on this by social psychologists.
Of course subliminal messages exist. However, to see them everywhere is pathological. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
And a "Coke" can is a "can of Coke", not a can of soda.
See how that works ?
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. You made the case that there were fewer pregnancies in northern states because of abortion, confusing the pregnancy rate with the birth rate. I corrected you. You keep going back to how horrible it is to teach any form of even age appropriate sex education (reproductive health and body safety) in kindergarten, without having even the vaguest idea what it involves. If you think it's up to the parents discretion to decide if molestation is acceptable behavior or not, then I can't help you.