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Old 09-05-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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Sorry, but I can't tell- are you being facetious?

What the Supreme Court has "found" was not that the unborn cannot have legal rights (they actually do) but rather that the state's interest in protecting the life of the unborn is not compelling enough to justify certain restrictions on a person's Due Process Right to Privacy in matters of reproduction.

Funny how no one noticed that before 1973, including the guys who wrote the 14th Amendment. For my money, if a constitutional right was hiding out for a hundred years in emanations from the penumbra of another right, it probably didn't want to be found.

Even honest pro-choicers will admit (sometimes only after a couple of drinks) that the 14th Amendment doesn't say anything that can reasonably be interpreted as creating a right abortion or denying rights to ZEFs. It's pretty well accepted by sensible people that the Due Process framing in this matter really was just a pretext for the Court to legislate from the bench. Pro-choicers just think that a right to abortion should exist- they like the result, so they look the other way on a line of decisions that' are otherwise pretty poorly reasoned and unconvincing.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Pffffft...don't waste your time. Republicans are like Radical Muslims...they have a natural affinity for martyrdom. They can't help it.
what are you talking about? Right now, if you are paying any attention you would see, this thing, first is a mess, regardless what we do and the country, as well as the parties are pretty well split on which way to go. It isn't a R or D situation and has nothing to do with party loyalty obviously.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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There was an AP study within the last few years that found 79% of republicans were blatantly racist.

After skimming through this forum, the study seems to be validated as correct.
tell us where you say this so called study and who did it? I don't care that AP reported it, who did the study?
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Voting them out of existence is preferred.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Fact of the matter is that abortion is legal. LEGAL, because of RvW and the 14th amendment. Your emotions and appeals to a "higher moral authority" are totally irrelevant.
If you don't approve of abortions, don't get one. Simple as that.
That being said, you have NO RIGHT to make the choice for someone else. None whatsoever.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I say this because of what has gone on in Syria. Some of you are divided over Syria and yet your Speaker is forced to side with Obama about a military strike. I am sure the left is laughing all the way to the voting both in the next election when many of your own voters won't come and vote for another republican.
How is the left laughing all the way to the voting booth because Boehner supports military action?

Right now most of the left and most of the right oppose military action in Syria. What can Nancy Pelosi's district be thinking right now? Is Pelosi a hawk like McCain? San Francisco voters support military action in Syria? No f-ing way.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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I say this because of what has gone on in Syria. Some of you are divided over Syria and yet your Speaker is forced to side with Obama about a military strike. I am sure the left is laughing all the way to the voting both in the next election when many of your own voters won't come and vote for another republican.
I don't believe we will see another Republican president for 50 years, if ever. As much as I despair over Mr. Obama and his rank incompetence, I would still take him over the whack job McCain. I cannot think of a single Republican politician I could, or would, support for the White House or much of anything else. I vote independent and always have. I've no idea where the Republicans are going to come up with a viable candidate. At the same time, I am depressed over the Democratic lineup. Are there no moderates left? People with a balanced view of the world, economics etc? Romney was a rank idiot to let the 47% words come out of his mouth as if he were expecting privacy. Hey, it is the digital age and there is NO privacy Mr. Romney and everyone else.

We, collectively, as citizens are in big trouble with this crop of people in congress and the WH. Scary.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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Geez, I wish the left would make up its mind. First they complain anytime we have had a GOP president that advocated for a military strike and called them war mongers and now they complain if the right doesn't want to go along with this one under a Democrat president. Hypocrisy, much?
Its like me questioning why many conservatives are against it, when they once supported military action
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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(re: AP study concludes 79% of republicans are racists)

Respondents were randomly selected from a nationally representative panel maintained by GfK Custom Research. Overall results from the survey have a margin of sampling error of approximately plus or minus 4 percentage points. The poll measuring anti-black views, was conducted Aug. 30 to Sept. 11. 2012

That's quite a bit more accurate than far-flung conspiracy theories and anecdotal whines about "it's all going to he!! in a hand-basket" by people who get their "news" from glenn beck, hannity, and limbaugh.




We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal... JULY 4th 1776

Where is the link to this poll and why didn't you post it?
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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Its like me questioning why many conservatives are against it, when they once supported military action
You still didn't answer the question but instead you just diverted. Last I heard many conservatives are backing Obama on this.
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