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You seem to be under the impression that libertarians do not believe in government, and support complete anarchy. If I recall, there are actual libertarians in our government, voting on laws, proposing laws and regulations.
But are registered to the Republican party. If what you're saying is true, why is every proposal of libertarianism is something to do with less government? Every aspect of libertarianism today is something that's anti-government. Hell, libertarians are calling for private owned roads as an alternative to government funded infrastructure. What role is left for the government if you want to minimize it?
But are registered to the Republican party. If what you're saying is true, why is every proposal of libertarianism is something to do with less government? Every aspect of libertarianism today is something that's anti-government. Hell, libertarians are calling for private owned roads as an alternative to government funded infrastructure. What role is left for the government if you want to minimize it?
Libertarians believe in less government. NOT NO GOVERNMENT.
Most countries have less corporate regulations than us.
Libertarians believe in personal responsibility and freedom.
We never had the TSA before. Don't need them now. There is no reason the FDA and USDA can't be merged. There is no reason to NOT end the war on drugs. There is no reason marriage, abortion and drugs can't be removed at the federal level and left at the State level.
DHS can be easilly cut in size or all together without compromising security.
There is no need to have foreign military bases. We are not the world police.
meaning that libertarians recognize that some laws are necessary to run the government, and allow for punishment of those that break the laws. what they DONT believe in is a government that runs everything through regulation or actual ownership of the means of production. for instance the big government people believe that you can force a change in behavior through regulation, where as the libertarian believes that behavior changes are going to happen anyway, and if you force those changes you only cause resentment among the populace.
meaning that libertarians recognize that some laws are necessary to run the government, and allow for punishment of those that break the laws. what they DONT believe in is a government that runs everything through regulation or actual ownership of the means of production. for instance the big government people believe that you can force a change in behavior through regulation, where as the libertarian believes that behavior changes are going to happen anyway, and if you force those changes you only cause resentment among the populace.
Exactly.
Crime laws would still exist. Drug laws are likely to be the only ones that change.
The NSA would likely go as would the Patriot Act and NDAA too.
They support an open boarder policy. That's enough to make me lose interest in any of the other policies they happen to support. Unfortunately, the two party system desperately needs a viable third party platform, and bad.
Libertarianism is just another dogmatic system that's akin to religion. I cold heartedly agree with this thesis. There's no difference between communism and libertarianism.
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Human societies were libertarian throughout human existence. Government is a new concept that has only been in use for a few thousand years.
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Hunter and gatherer societies are as anarchy as societies can get.
You might consider stopping while there's still room for the other foot.
Libertarians scare the snot out of both parties because we believe in adherence to Constitutional law. Communists have zero constitutionality, as they are totalitarians/fascists. We believe in GOOD LAWS; the opposite of overlapping, over reaching, nanny state controls. We are the polar opposite of communism.
You (and Bloomberg) should have replaced Libertarians with modern progressivism, which walk hand in hand with the Communist Party USA.
meaning that libertarians recognize that some laws are necessary to run the government, and allow for punishment of those that break the laws. what they DONT believe in is a government that runs everything through regulation or actual ownership of the means of production. for instance the big government people believe that you can force a change in behavior through regulation, where as the libertarian believes that behavior changes are going to happen anyway, and if you force those changes you only cause resentment among the populace.
What laws are those?
Some forms of regulation works. Restaaurants and lunch counters refused service to those of color. The government had to intervene. However, some nutjob libertarians argue that it's "immoral" to force businesses to not refuse service to unpreferred customers because government has no business in the marketplace. There's nothing wrong with having to be forced to serve customers who are of different skin tone from yours.
There has not been one downside of forcing businesses to service African American citizens. Not one!!!!!!!!!!
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Exactly.
Crime laws would still exist. Drug laws are likely to be the only ones that change.
The NSA would likely go as would the Patriot Act and NDAA too.
The police and miltary would still exist too.
Let's abolish all laws, people commit them anyways. Laws serve no purpose.
And most all of the leadership positions within the Democratic Party are taken up by socialists progressives.
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If what you're saying is true, why is every proposal of libertarianism is something to do with less government? Every aspect of libertarianism today is something that's anti-government. Hell, libertarians are calling for private owned roads as an alternative to government funded infrastructure. What role is left for the government if you want to minimize it?
Our federal government is so freaking gigantic and all consuming, that there is no part of our lives it has not already inserted itself. We could cut government in half, and it would still be a ponderous and overbearing force in our lives.
Our government is into every part of our lives, controlling everyday items like washing machines, education, to food, to faucets and shower heads, to... well name something that the federal government does not control. Our government regulates our everyday lives to the point where, we are banned from manufacturing or purchasing products and services because some bureaucrat thinks otherwise.
Again, if libertarians are anarchists, who want to end government, then why are they in government, proposing laws????
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