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That already happened years ago......... Guns are not going anywhere any time soon... if you can somehow force a ban it's illegal and we have the right to not even deal with that new law. You would see congress get spanked again.....
Of course this won't happen because congress hasn't forgotten the last spanking they got. You PC have brought this upon yourselves... You pretended your way right into this mess.
You PC must pay for it and be banned.
Just because you fancy yourself a bigshot and want to live a "bullets for breakfast" tough guy lifestyle like in Mogadishu doesn't mean the rest of us should.
Guns for hunting, sport, and self-defense with the appropriate controls and restrictions are fine. Unrestricted gun proliferation and vigilantism is actually hostile to civilization.
I want to keep deranged lunatics from owning one, like the one who shot up that Navy yard in DC, the one who murdered a bunch of people in an Aurora movie theater, and the one who killed those 25 school kids in Newtown. And I think that having real background checks is a perfectly rational, common sense thing to push for rather than fight against.
Pretty soon, the next slaughter at a mall, movie, church, office that results in the death of a few dozen innocent people won't even be reported because it will be so accepted and commonplace.
I want to keep deranged lunatics from owning one, like the one who shot up that Navy yard in DC, the one who murdered a bunch of people in an Aurora movie theater, and the one who killed those 25 school kids in Newtown. And I think that having real background checks is a perfectly rational, common sense thing to push for rather than fight against.
Pretty soon, the next slaughter at a mall, movie, church, office that results in the death of a few dozen innocent people won't even be reported because it will be so accepted and commonplace.
Would background checks stopped any of the three tragedies that you mentioned? Where did the Newtown shooter obtain his firearm? He stole it. Do you think for a moment that all illegally obtained firearms will stop being used by background checks? Really? Could I interest you in some land in Louisiana with water rights??
I want to keep deranged lunatics from owning one, like the one who shot up that Navy yard in DC, the one who murdered a bunch of people in an Aurora movie theater, and the one who killed those 25 school kids in Newtown. And I think that having real background checks is a perfectly rational, common sense thing to push for rather than fight against.
Pretty soon, the next slaughter at a mall, movie, church, office that results in the death of a few dozen innocent people won't even be reported because it will be so accepted and commonplace.
Just more fear mongering.
So you just want to throw HIPPA out the window? Is that common sense?
Who decides who is not mentally fit to own guns?
Do people even get a court appearance before having their rights restricted?
How would these laws actually prevented any of these crimes?
Why would the criminals even follow these new regulations?
Just because you fancy yourself a bigshot and want to live a "bullets for breakfast" tough guy lifestyle like in Mogadishu doesn't mean the rest of us should.
Guns for hunting, sport, and self-defense with the appropriate controls and restrictions are fine. Unrestricted gun proliferation and vigilantism is actually hostile to civilization.
Just because you want to live in the Soviet Union or the world of the movie Equilibrium, dont mean we have to.
You dont like the Bill of Rights, The Constitution, liberty, freedom, and limited government...leave..
and by appropriate controls and restrictions, you mean the people not have the tools or means of defending their lives liberty, freedom, and their property from a tyrannical government.
gun ownership and self defense is the glue that hold civil society together..
I cannot help being astonished
That a agents of oppression and evil should come from a capital so far away so removed from the founding laws and principals of this nation
At such risk, trouble and expense
To rob, plunder and destroy another people
Because they will not lay their lives
And fortune at their feet.
I want to keep deranged lunatics from owning one, like the one who shot up that Navy yard in DC, the one who murdered a bunch of people in an Aurora movie theater, and the one who killed those 25 school kids in Newtown. And I think that having real background checks is a perfectly rational, common sense thing to push for rather than fight against.
Pretty soon, the next slaughter at a mall, movie, church, office that results in the death of a few dozen innocent people won't even be reported because it will be so accepted and commonplace.
you are aware they dont need a gun to kill people right?
Google happy land fire it killed 87 that was just a chain and a lock..
how would have "real background checks" stopped newton, you are aware that he stole the weapons, right?
You are aware that every mass shooting (expect for gabby gifferod) happens in gun free zones...aka self defense free zones..
Restricting the rights and freedoms of other in the lie of security is anything by common sense..
“common-sense” is a code-word for regulations that infringe on Americans’ natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. A right denied the occupants of the buildings where a crazed gunman unleashed carnage on defenseless people.
Regarding the OP, of course the vast, vast majority of gun owners are perfectly reasonable, rational, responsible, peace loving people.
There are nuts in any group or subset of people. Some of them may own guns; others won't. Some may be of a certain color or cultural background or political ideology and some may be of other ones. Some may be religious, some may not, etc., etc.
So you just want to throw HIPPA out the window? Is that common sense?
Who decides who is not mentally fit to own guns?
Medical professionals. Don't tell me that we cannot make any legal safeguards in our national policy relating to sanity.
Do you also think that airline pilots should not undergo periodic psychological evaluation, because "whose to say" if they're fit to fly or not?
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Do people even get a court appearance before having their rights restricted?
Sure, why not?
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How would these laws actually prevented any of these crimes?
No law will prevent every single instance of bad activity. But it's reasonable to have some comprehensive background checks rather than have a haphazard system with big holes in it. And it will save lives.
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Why would the criminals even follow these new regulations?
Just because there are some criminals who disobey laws, does that mean that we should have no laws at all?
The arguments of "whose to say who is sane, so let's not even consider it" and "we should have no laws because criminals will just break them" are null and void.
Medical professionals. Don't tell me that we cannot make any legal safeguards in our national policy relating to sanity.
Do you also think that airline pilots should not undergo periodic psychological evaluation, because "whose to say" if they're fit to fly or not?
Sure, why not?
No law will prevent every single instance of bad activity. But it's reasonable to have some comprehensive background checks rather than have a haphazard system with big holes in it. And it will save lives.
Just because there are some criminals who disobey laws, does that mean that we should have no laws at all?
The arguments of "whose to say who is sane, so let's not even consider it" and "we should have no laws because criminals will just break them" are null and void.
The ACLU will never let this happen...sorry but this system that you dream of will be abused for political proposes and the realization of this and the righteous fear it breeds will prevent it from ever being created..
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