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As I understand it, they are given a choice: get a flu vaccine or wear a mask.
Personally, I wouldn't want some healthcare worker, who apparently lets ideology trump medical science, spreading the flu from compromised patients to compromised patients.
You need rephrase that: who apparently lets ideology trump statistics.
Which, is all well and good, unless you happen to be on the wrong side of the statistic.
I can see your point, however, for a healthcare worker (hospitals, doctors, etc). That's a special situation, though. In a general setting, the dynamics are totally different.
As I understand it, they are given a choice: get a flu vaccine or wear a mask.
Personally, I wouldn't want some healthcare worker, who apparently lets ideology trump medical science, spreading the flu from compromised patients to compromised patients.
That's usually a private employer policy, but most of the states that mandate it do so like any other vaccine where you need a religious or medical exemption. And the flu vaccine does not provide herd immunity, even where it works. The only place it has been shown to be effective is in nursing homes where the patient's only contact is with health care providers.
The one time I was "forced" to get a flu shot, I was sick as a goat for a week in ways I'd never felt before or since--way worse than any flu I've had over the years. I've not since had, nor will I ever get, another flu shot.
The problem with these mandatory "edicts" is that it doesn't even consider those who may have severe side-effects. It's the typical one-size-fits-all mentality of our generation. It's a statistical thing where adverse effects of disease are compared to adverse side effects of the "cure." If the percentage favors the cure, the edict is declared, and to hell with those who are adversely affected by the "cure." Spin that cylinder and pull the trigger, son.
Sounds like you were exposed to the flu before you got the shot.
If this bribery is happening in the UK, I don't doubt that it's happening here too.
The Flu Vaccine Can Cause Death
In 2011, the co-founder of the Safe Schools Campaign, Mary Tocco, wrote that it is common knowledge that the flu vaccination has the potential to cause serious side effects including death:
They combine various flu virus strains based on an educated guess and then recommend the shot to everyone, including children and pregnant mothers. According to the CDC Vital Statistics Report 1999-2003, influenza death for children under the age of 5 skyrocketed as they began to implement the flu vaccine for the children. From 1999 to early 2002, death rates were declining from 25 down to 10 per year. Then, the latter half of 2002 the CDC mandated the flu vaccine for children and the death rate climbed from 25 deaths per year in 1999 to over 90 in 2002! Death is a pretty bad vaccine side effect! [5]
Given her evidence, I personally believe that it is far safer to catch the flu, than it is to risk a virtually untested vaccination concocted from an educated guess at what this year’s flu strain is going to be.
Conclusion
Nurses have always been thought of as natural born carers. To force them to have vaccinations by dangling a nice juicy carrot in front of them with a vaccine syringe on the end and saying that their patients will suffer if they do not have the vaccination is pure evil. This is nothing short of emotional blackmail.
Why should the government think that it is right to deny hospitals much-needed funds all year and then say that the money is only available if they vaccinate their staff with dangerous and unnecessary vaccines?
Many, if not most, private hospitals here in the US require their staff to be vaccinated, or lose their job. So much for pinning this all on government
Many, if not most, private hospitals here in the US require their staff to be vaccinated, or lose their job. So much for pinning this all on government
Private hospitals are not exempt from intrusion of gov't, by any means, plus they need IRS cooperation to operate. Nothing in this country functions without permission and oversight of this cabal.
Do it their way, or don't do it at all.
Originally Posted by claudhopper;31503031
Why should the government think that it is right to deny hospitals much-needed funds all year and then say that the money is only available if they vaccinate their staff with dangerous and unnecessary vaccines?
UK Government Bribes Hospitals to Vaccinate Staff[/url]
Time to put away the tin foil hat and look up the history of vaccines and how much of a different place our world is now. ALL hospital staff in the US get flu vaccines.
The reason why a government, and in the UK they're the ones paying for the car, want people vaccinated is so that they don't have to pay for the slew of costs caused by their hospitals becoming breeding grounds for the flu.
The people who rail against vaccines are mouth breathing half-wits who don't have a clue of what they're talking about.
Private hospitals are not exempt from intrusion of gov't, by any means, plus they need IRS cooperation to operate. Nothing in this country functions without permission and oversight of this cabal.
Do it their way, or don't do it at all.
Oh, do watch out for the black helicopters!
The IRS has no interest in immunizations, to the best of my knowledge.
Time to put away the tin foil hat and look up the history of vaccines and how much of a different place our world is now. ALL hospital staff in the US get flu vaccines.
The reason why a government, and in the UK they're the ones paying for the car, want people vaccinated is so that they don't have to pay for the slew of costs caused by their hospitals becoming breeding grounds for the flu.
The people who rail against vaccines are mouth breathing half-wits who don't have a clue of what they're talking about.
You really believe this is about saving money? This is about control and bribing you and your employer into compliance or they take away your God given right to earn a living. That is wrong. I assume you never bothered to even look at the opening post. See anything fishy?
The CDC says:
The nasal spray (also called LAIV or FluMist®): The viruses in the nasal-spray vaccine are weakened and do not cause severe symptoms often associated with influenza illness. (In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely.)
In children, side effects from LAIV (FluMist®) can include:
runny nose
wheezing
headache
vomiting
muscle aches
fever
In adults, side effects from LAIV (FluMist®) can include:
Now think! What are the symptoms of the flu??? The side effects can get much worse, and tend to multiply among those vaccinated as opposed to the un-vaccinated. Have they done those studies? No. Why not? Because they know what the results would show. It's easier to just discredit those that have looked at those stats, as outside of the consensus. Control the information, control opinion, you control the populace.
I suggest the best course of action is to think for yourselves and make an informed decision, while the information is still available. Internet censorship is just around the corner.
You want to be a guinea pig, have at it, but don't force others to comply with this insanity.
Now, let's say you do get sick after being vaccinated, let's say it's worse than the flu, you have a bad reaction. What is your recourse? You have none - they are protected by this gov't you worship so much. THEY are protected FROM you.
think about that
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