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The House just shut the government down, but THEY are getting paid...for not working. Oh yeah, they're really going to get to work. Pff!
No, the Senate, and primarily Reid shut it down. See how that works?
The House sent numerous bills that funded EVERYTHING, including funding Obamacare in full without the illegal waivers and congressional subsidies, and the Senate voted them down without even reading them. The DNC is the new party of NO... how does it feel?
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Originally Posted by EDnurse
No. Please read the Constitution. The House of Representatives has the power of the purse. Nobody else does. The House controls the money. Period.
How Does the Federal Government Create a Budget?
There are five key steps in the federal budget process:
Step 1: The President submits a budget request to Congress (what a joke)
Step 2: The House and Senate pass budget resolutions
Step 3: House and Senate Appropriations subcommittees “markup” appropriations bills
Step 4: The House and Senate vote on appropriations bills and reconcile differences <<<this is where we're at, and it's the Senate that's refusing to reconcile. Fund the damn ACA the way it's written or not at all. The Dems don't want to have anything to do with the bill as written.
Step 5: The President signs each appropriations bill and the budget becomes law
Got it?
This is the way it is designed to work... until recently.
Anyway you come to grips with the govt shutdown, the ultimate villian is going to be the GOP.
I consider myself a moderate independent voter-----therefore, I dont strictly align along party lines.
As this plays out for a couple of days the numbers will increase in the polls and reflect that blame is going to be assigned to the GOP.
There was not a need for a confrontation like this to occur------I feel that this shutdown was preconceived as the GOP knew the President and the dems were not going to delay the new healthcare law. Putting that on the table guarnteed a confrontation and a govt shutdown.
If the GOP intent was to embarras the President and the Dems, is it worth the national anxiety that this is causing.
Most people that I know are getting tired of these annual games and carnivals that are playing out every year around budget time.
It is about time that the our legislators respect the American people and do what they are suppossed to be doing----not throwing demands on the table that they know will not possibly be negotiable. While not being a big fan of the President, I knew that he would not negotiate away the implementation of healthcare-----he already agreed to a one year delay for small business participation in the plan.
I think there is going to be a significant shock value coming from all of this------and a major shock value for the Gop when the outrage really hits.
No. Please read the Constitution. The House of Representatives has the power of the purse. Nobody else does. The House controls the money. Period.
So, whatever the House decides the Senate has to sign off on? It doesn't seem to be working quite that way does it? And even if the Senate did compromise the President has vowed to veto it hasn't he? You can't blame it on the House. Obama wants the government shutdown to use against the Republicans in the 2014 elections.
Anyway you come to grips with the govt shutdown, the ultimate villian is going to be the GOP.
I consider myself a moderate independent voter-----therefore, I dont strictly align along party lines.
As this plays out for a couple of days the numbers will increase in the polls and reflect that blame is going to be assigned to the GOP.
There was not a need for a confrontation like this to occur------I feel that this shutdown was preconceived as the GOP knew the President and the dems were not going to delay the new healthcare law. Putting that on the table guarnteed a confrontation and a govt shutdown.
If the GOP intent was to embarras the President and the Dems, is it worth the national anxiety that this is causing.
Most people that I know are getting tired of these annual games and carnivals that are playing out every year around budget time.
It is about time that the our legislators respect the American people and do what they are suppossed to be doing----not throwing demands on the table that they know will not possibly be negotiable. While not being a big fan of the President, I knew that he would not negotiate away the implementation of healthcare-----he already agreed to a one year delay for small business participation in the plan.
I think there is going to be a significant shock value coming from all of this------and a major shock value for the Gop when the outrage really hits.
Most people I know really aren't all that into politics and are far more aware of who is dancing on some dancing contest than any government shutdown.
Most people who would vote for the Tea Party will still vote for the Tea Party candidates because they support what they're doing and those who vote for the RINOS will still vote for them, and the liberal voters will still vote for liberals.
So, whatever the House decides the Senate has to sign off on? It doesn't seem to be working quite that way does it? And even if the Senate did compromise the President has vowed to veto it hasn't he? You can't blame it on the House. Obama wants the government shutdown.
Yes, you could tell Obama was itching for this showdown since he couldn't have his Syrian war and Putin made him look foolish.
That's why he was boasting how he would not compromise in any way --- he meant to shutdown the government and now he has.
Government services affected by shutdown -
National Parks, Tax Returns, Tax Audits, WIC Program, E-Verify, Health, Gun Permits, Military Pay, Passports, Work Safety.
Government services not affected by shutdown (this should be the "important stuff" list) -
Homeland Security, Mail, Social Security, Air Travel, Prisons, VA Mortgages, Presidents Salary(really?), Congressional Salary(lmfao.), Food Stamps ( ), Food Inspection.
Should switch Military pay, Work Saftey and Health for President Salary, Congressional Salary and Food stamps.
Why doesn't anyone question why Obama has missed 4 budgets entirely? He had full control of all levels of government and even his Dem senate and house refused to pass his insane budgets.
The lunatics are running the asylum folks.
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), Food Inspection.