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Its not a dam subsidy because at the end of the year, if you spent $1200 on rent, and your business loses $1200, the government isnt going to reinburse you the dam $1200
There is a HUGE difference between a subsidy, and a deduction.. You have proven time and time again you dont know a dam thing about taxes, which discredits every other posting you make, discussing tax policies.
If you dont think there is a difference between getting $1200 back at the end of the year, vs not getting $1200 back at the end of the year.. then I'm going to call you stupid to your face...
Sad, now you are just making up a completely different scenario.
Sad, now you are just making up a completely different scenario.
I wonder when the landlord is going to marry the renter? I mean this dude has taken my simple example and wow I don't know what he read, but he is way off.
What is the difference between getting a deduction from your rent and receiving a check at the end of the year for the exact same amount of the deduction?
Whoo you are are really kind of s... I try to explain again.
In my example,
the landlord is the government
the renter is the taxpayers.
The deduction is the $100 dollars taken off the rent per month for the renter doing x, y, z around the property.
I was using a simplistic story to show how deductions(the landlord taking off $100 a month in rent for the renter doing x, y, z around the property) offered to renters( taxpayers)results in the landlord( the government) spending $1200 whether the landlord mails a check or just doesn't collect the $100 a month.
Oh my fn god.. how dumb can you be?
If the landlord is the government
tenant pays $1200 for rent, government spends $100 for repairs.. net proceed to the government $1100
Under your change, tenant pays $1100 for rent, another $100 for repairs, net proceed to the govenrment. $1100
What is the difference between getting a deduction from your rent and receiving a check at the end of the year for the exact same amount of the deduction?
You cant be this dumb...
Name for me a company that receives a check at the end of the year for the amount of their employee health insurance costs..
In order to argue that its a subsidy, you'd have to be writing a check TO THE GOVERNMENT, and having the GOVERNMENT reinburse you 100% of the costs.. Neither is true.. You might owe less at the end of the year, but the government does NOT write businesses a check for their healthcare costs..
Your own argument proves its not a subsidy.. Until now.. because I will receive reinbursements of my cost.. Why arent you upset? In fact you are now applauding the same thing you were just moaning about.. yes, its mind boggling..
Right now the government could say from now on we will collect all taxes owed. And then we will mail out checks for the deductions you claim on your taxes.
Or the government can say we just won't collect all taxes owed based on the deductions we have given out.
Either way the government is spending for those deductions.
Right now the government could say from now on we will collect all taxes owed. And then we will mail out checks for the deductions you claim on your taxes.
Or the government can say we just won't collect all taxes owed based on the deductions we have given out.
Either way the government is spending for those deductions.
There is no difference.
No a deduction is not a god dam subsidy
Subsidy:
1. a financial aid supplied by a government, as to industry, for reasons of public welfare, the balance of payments, etc 2. English history a financial grant made originally for special purposes by Parliament to the Crown 3. any monetary contribution, grant, or aid
Government is not giving you aid, they are allowing you to keep what you already have
They are not making you a grant
They are not giving you monetary contributions..
ITS YOUR MONEY you use to cover your employee expenses, NOT THE GOVERNMENTS..
A CREDIT is a subsidy, you know, things like the earned income child CREDIT..
I entered in the info for my family. we currently have helath insurance through my wife's employer which costs roughly 5000 a year. Under Obamacare we'd be eleigible in the state of NH for a plan costing 9500 per year and since we make too much money would not receive a tax credit.
Sooner or later the middle class is going to find out that the only thing Obamacare is going to do to them is screw them and it aint gonna be pretty for the people who devised this plan and forced it upon us.
Wait a minute....didn't you say your wife's employer gives your family healtcare (or partially pays for it). If so, you are not required to get insurance thru the government program.
Wait a minute....didn't you say your wife's employer gives your family healtcare (or partially pays for it). If so, you are not required to get insurance thru the government program.
Those of us who don't qualify for the subsidy based on our income are a little peeved at the moment by Obamacare. Please forgive us if we are not in a celebratory mood.
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