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Old 10-03-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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People that thought Obamacare was free or affordable(affordable care act)all they had to do is sign up are finding that $700-$900 a month is not affordable, for the Silver plans and that the $5000 deductible and $50 co-pay of the Bronze plan, not worth it.



So, here we sit and only the rich will survive this mess.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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People that thought Obamacare was free or affordable(affordable care act)all they had to do is sign up are finding that $700-$900 a month is not affordable, for the Silver plans and that the $5000 deductible and $50 co-pay of the Bronze plan, not worth it.



So, here we sit and only the rich will survive this mess.

It will be survival of the fittest or most productive or ........ best connected.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Proof?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: texas
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People that thought Obamacare was free or affordable(affordable care act)all they had to do is sign up are finding that $700-$900 a month is not affordable, for the Silver plans and that the $5000 deductible and $50 co-pay of the Bronze plan, not worth it.



So, here we sit and only the rich will survive this mess.
Bringing up numbers without specifics of the person or family in that bracket is ridiculous.
Put the numbers in context. Is this a family of 10 with both parents making over 100k gross income yearly or is it a single woman, no dependents, making 25K gross income yearly?

throwing out numbers arbitrarily is not gonna work anymore. Too many American's know the facts of ACA.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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Bringing up numbers without specifics of the person or family in that bracket is ridiculous.
Put the numbers in context. Is this a family of 10 with both parents making over 100k gross income yearly or is it a single woman, no dependents, making 25K gross income yearly?

throwing out numbers arbitrarily is not gonna work anymore. Too many American's know the facts of ACA.
I checked the Kaiser calculator yesterday. my family would pay about 750 a month for the bronze plan. there are 4 of us, and we do not make 100k per year.


Now i have HC via work so Im not impacted but the vast majority of middle income people making about what I make certainly cannot take a 700 per month hit.

that was the bronze plan and that plan has a $12K out of pocket per year max.

yea if you are super poor maybe there is enough subsidy from the gubbermint to make it somehow better, but really we are still talking about a policy you pay for that will still leave you with a big chunk you have to cover yourself.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Bringing up numbers without specifics of the person or family in that bracket is ridiculous.
Put the numbers in context. Is this a family of 10 with both parents making over 100k gross income yearly or is it a single woman, no dependents, making 25K gross income yearly?

throwing out numbers arbitrarily is not gonna work anymore. Too many American's know the facts of ACA.

Family of 4, making $55,000 - $70,000 a year State Illinois
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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Its day 3 and the Federal government still can't even operate a webpage correctly....
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:13 AM
 
Location: On the road
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Its day 3 and the Federal government still can't even operate a webpage correctly....
They probably could if the Tea baggers hadn't shut them down and sent everyone home.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Subsidy Calculator | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

this calculator gives good information.

family of 4 making $50K per year get stuck with a $6871 per year in premium (bronze) or $8290 (silver)
The max out of pocket would be $12,700 per year!

someone please explain to me how a family of 4 making 50K per year that cannot now afford to purchase HC, will be able to take a hit between $572 per month and $690 per month???????
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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Maybe all those "glitches" are purposeful to keep people from seeing the rates.
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