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Old 10-16-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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How eerily accurate was he? Today, the NSA is doing exactly what Orwell wrote about in 1948. He obviously didn't have a clue about the technology, but he did know human nature and he foresaw the growth of our Big Government Nanny State.
There are still some ways to preserve a certain level of privacy that didn't exist in Orwell's world, although they require a pretty severe degree of personal renunciation, and probably what most of us would consider poverty.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The only way to "solve" the spying issues regarding NSA and similar to those in 1984 is to de-plug and un-wire ourselves from technology because it will always be abused.

No guns or 4th amendment rights or Diane Feinstein tactics with stop people from being invaded by technology. The only way is to "live off the grid." And not many of us are willing to do it. I think about it, but then I realize I'd rather be comfortable and somewhat lazy than do everything myself and not have the conveniences of technology.

I figure everyone else is similar to me because the answer to these questions are very simple. Go live on a mountain somewhere without electricity where no one knows you're there and you will solve the outrage you have on someone spying on you since no one will know you exist or where you live.
Yes, but it shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't have to hide from government. And yes, there are things that can be done to help. It starts with electing politicians who really value our rights. Very few in office today do.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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Yes, but it shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't have to hide from government. And yes, there are things that can be done to help. It starts with electing politicians who really value our rights. Very few in office today do.
How many people that value rights, run for office anyways?
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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LOL, there was spying back in 1948. He just imagined spying on steroids. And life usually mimics fiction, especially science fiction as it inspires people IRL.

Love "1984." It and "A Brave New World" are two of my favorite older science fiction books.

And it was fiction. Of course it didn't offer solutions. Both of these books serve as warnings more than having the answers to the issues presented within their covers.





Warnings not well enough heeded.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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How many people that value rights, run for office anyways?
Ron Paul comes to mind. Not many others.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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And Gary Johnson.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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Gotta wonder if he predicted it...or just gave them the blueprint.

Life imitates art many times.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:28 AM
 
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Default What's old is new again

"When the American people find out how government has secretly interpreted the Patriot Act, they are going to be stunned and they are going to be angry." - US Senator Ron Wyden


There's still much more to this story, folks. When you find out that nefarious factions within our government have been running a modern day COINTELPRO campaign to silence whistleblowers and activist you're going to demand the change that Barack Obama promised while he was campaigning for the Presidency.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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From his book "1984" written in 1948;

"There was, of course, no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, The Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate, they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live – did live, from habit that became instinct – in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every move was scrutinized."

How eerily accurate was he? Today, the NSA is doing exactly what Orwell wrote about in 1948. He obviously didn't have a clue about the technology, but he did know human nature and he foresaw the growth of our Big Government Nanny State.
It was accurate then, and has been ever since.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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Yes, but it shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't have to hide from government. And yes, there are things that can be done to help. It starts with electing politicians who really value our rights. Very few in office today do.
It really isn't hiding though. You can still go out and do things and be an American and even participate in the world just not give people the opportunity to spy on you or know anything about you without coming out to your house and meeting you in person and stating their business.

Basically you can "Thoreau" it like "On Walden Pond." And take a stance against the privacy invasions by not allowing your privacy to be invaded. If enough people did it, policies could and would change.

I don't think politicians are the answer to anything. All politicians IMO are somewhat corrupt and out for their own interest or the interest of their backers and not the masses of their constituents.
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