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To be clear; This isn't a bash Obamacare thread. I just want to point out a few things that we now know, and ask a simple question.
1: We were promised that rates would go down.
Today on CSPAN the head of NY health services admitted that only 10% of the people signing up on their exchange would see their rates go down after subsidies. She admitted that 90% will pay more. I'm seeing far more people complaining about rates going up, than people with positive reviews.
2: We were told that we could keep our existing plan if we wanted to.
People are now getting their letters of cancellation en'masse because nearly all private plans will not meet the ACA minimums. Things like middle aged and elderly being required to have pregnancy coverage.
3: It's coming to light that the exchanges are intentionally shielding the ability to anonymously shop the plans. They require to input all of your info first, and then present a ballpark screenshot. That is, if you can make it to that point before the site locks up or crashes.
I'm just curious to know that if 90% of peoples rates increase, and only 10% decrease... there's going to be a ton of mad people both left and right in a few months. With these facts coming to light, and if the numbers will actually be this bad; who should/will take responsibility for what appears to be impending failure?
What you posted is most likely just the surface of this obamanation. It's sad really because I don't know of one person liberal or conservative that doesn't believe folks should have access to affordable care. Unfortunately, the lying sack of chit in the white house and his cronies Reid, Pelosi etc.. rammed this down everyone's throats under a false premise. It will collapse due to its design or lack there of..
Most rates will go down with the tax credits. From the beginning the exchange plan rates (pre tax credit) were only expected to be about 10% lower than non exchange plans.
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It's coming to light that the exchanges are intentionally shielding the ability to anonymously shop the plans. They require to input all of your info first, and then present a ballpark screenshot. That is, if you can make it to that point before the site locks up or crashes.
Hey OP, I glad you didint start a "Obamacare bashing" thread.
That's just it, I didn't. Your sarcasm shows that you have no real answer. I only asked a simple question based on the facts that have come to light. I'm sorry if these simple facts make you nervous about what you thought was the truth.
katzpaw said: Most rates will go down with the tax credits. From the beginning the exchange plan rates (pre tax credit) were only expected to be about 10% lower than non exchange plans.
This goes directly against what the head of NY health services said. She made it clear that only 10% of people will actually see their healthcare rates go down. Nobody has addressed why we are unable to keep our private plans. Were we not promised we could?
And this is just the SIGN UP process for Obamacare.
Wait for the actual implementation.
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