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Old 11-27-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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Well then it would be in the interest of countries like japan and India to take care of Iran, eh? Nothing in the Constitution tasks the US with being the world police and it's long past due we give up that role. There's certainly little/no reason to believe the US is likely to solve conflicts in the ME that existed for centuries before the US was even an idea in the minds of the founders.
Liberals won't let us leave the Middle East.

See, they continually block us from using domestic energy sources. This keeps us reliant upon foreign oil. That means we need to keep ensuring that oil will keep flowing.

If the Middle East wasn't of vital strategic interest, then we wouldn't need to keep messing around there. We don't get involved in all the conflicts in South America or Africa. Because they don't produce a huge chunk of the world's energy.

While the energy we have right here sits unused as liberals fight against fracking and put moratoriums on drilling.

Liberals complain about our involvement in the Middle East even as they are the ones forcing us to stay involved there. Stop blocking coal. Stop blocking nuclear power. Stop blocking fracking. Then we won't need to have young Americans dying in the desert.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Liberals won't let us leave the Middle East.

See, they continually block us from using domestic energy sources. This keeps us reliant upon foreign oil. That means we need to keep ensuring that oil will keep flowing.
Contrary to what you have been instructed to believe about those evil liberals, US will be the worlds #1 producer of oil in about 7 years. Yes, we will be producing more than Saudi Arabia.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Liberals won't let us leave the Middle East.

See, they continually block us from using domestic energy sources. This keeps us reliant upon foreign oil. That means we need to keep ensuring that oil will keep flowing.

If the Middle East wasn't of vital strategic interest, then we wouldn't need to keep messing around there. We don't get involved in all the conflicts in South America or Africa. Because they don't produce a huge chunk of the world's energy.

While the energy we have right here sits unused as liberals fight against fracking and put moratoriums on drilling.

Liberals complain about our involvement in the Middle East even as they are the ones forcing us to stay involved there. Stop blocking coal. Stop blocking nuclear power. Stop blocking fracking. Then we won't need to have young Americans dying in the desert.
Yet countries like China and India have no problem getting the oil they need by simply buying it, with none of the unnecessary war involvement we've had over the years, eh?

Other than being an obviously biased anti-liberal , your post pretty much irrelevant.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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History has shown that Islamic zealots are crazy. Iran will absolutely continue to enrich. They will pursue their bomb ambitions. The idiot-in-chief and the ketchup king are too stupid to realize that. Any one who thinks otherwise is seriously deluded. O-idiot keeps stumbling from one bit of massive stupidity to another from trying to spend his way out of a recession, to his wealth redistribution schemes, social engineering, Benghazi and NSA and IRS scandals and health care. The rampant stupidity of this administration is beyond compare. Carter is a genius compared to this fool.
This is what I wrote in the other thread about this subject. I have stopped trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. He has by far done more damage to foreign policy than any other POTUS that I can recall.

I am disgusted beyond any doubt about how Obama measures his decisions on how much a hit his narcissism can take.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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What does ignore mean if you keep replying to me?

And yes, like it or not, what I said is correct. Further back it was Britain, the US has picked up where Britain left off...
You do realize that Terrorists (Muslim) have killed many people in many other countries than the U.S. and the U.K. right?
Sorry if that doesn't jibe with your "the west is evil and deserves what it gets" mantra.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: N/A
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Iran, with or without nukes, is not a threat to the US.
Really?

Ever see a model of a nuke hitting the shallow oil wells of Saudi Arabia?
Saudi will take shipment of their nukes from Paki's now. Not very stable.

Russia is now Egypt's largest weapons supplier... New warm water port being set up as we speak...

Guess what Egypt controls? Suez canal... 1/3 of Ocean going Crude is shipped through the canal, and on to Europe.

Why does that matter? Oil is traded on a global supply market... any tick up from one source, affects the whole.

There are greater threats, than nukes.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Default Confusion over nuclear deal as Iran protests White House statement

"Despite the highly touted Iranian nuclear deal announced by the Obama administration over the weekend, the two sides still can't seem to agree on what it is they agreed to.

The aftermath of the deal struck early Sunday in Geneva has been marked by confusion. According to Iranian media, the country's Foreign Ministry is now claiming that the White House put out an invalid fact sheet about the agreement.

A ministry spokeswoman called it a "one-sided interpretation of the agreed text," and said parts of it "contradict" the actual plan, according to Fars News Agency."

"Immediately after the deal was announced, Iranian officials were claiming that the agreement both recognized their right to enrich uranium and took military force off the table."

Y'all are aware the 6 month clock hasn't even STARTED yet right? This means they're refining like crazy while they argue out some details and doing their best to get more wiggle room as they always do.

"But State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, when asked Tuesday when that time period begins, could not say."

"That's a good question," Psaki said. She said the "next step" is a series of "technical discussions at a working level so that we can essentially tee up the implementation of the agreement."

Nice photo op for Obama but I'm betting this agreement will go down like every other one.


Confusion over nuclear deal as Iran protests White House statement | Fox News
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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"Despite the highly touted Iranian nuclear deal announced by the Obama administration over the weekend, the two sides still can't seem to agree on what it is they agreed to.

The aftermath of the deal struck early Sunday in Geneva has been marked by confusion. According to Iranian media, the country's Foreign Ministry is now claiming that the White House put out an invalid fact sheet about the agreement.

A ministry spokeswoman called it a "one-sided interpretation of the agreed text," and said parts of it "contradict" the actual plan, according to Fars News Agency."

"Immediately after the deal was announced, Iranian officials were claiming that the agreement both recognized their right to enrich uranium and took military force off the table."

Y'all are aware the 6 month clock hasn't even STARTED yet right? This means they're refining like crazy while they argue out some details and doing their best to get more wiggle room as they always do.

"But State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, when asked Tuesday when that time period begins, could not say."

"That's a good question," Psaki said. She said the "next step" is a series of "technical discussions at a working level so that we can essentially tee up the implementation of the agreement."

Nice photo op for Obama but I'm betting this agreement will go down like every other one.


Confusion over nuclear deal as Iran protests White House statement | Fox News
It didn't take 48 hours before Iran started whining. Now that they have their money, watch them enrich. Like they were ever going to stop.

Sanctions could be turned on again. Riiight. Figure the odds on that happening. It would signal yet another failure on top of all the past failures that define the o-idiot administration.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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I have asked you to prove your points multiple times, so I won't ask again. Inspectors have been to Parchin since 2006.
And you've claimed that inspectors were allowed to ALL sites, which is factually wrong.

BTW, the parchin inspections have been partial at best, as iran has limited what parts of the complex the IAEA could inspect:

http://www.isisnucleariran.org/sites/detail/parchin/

"ISIS has closely monitored satellite imagery of the building, as Iran apparently engaged in clean-up activities at the site in multiple phases of activity. The IAEA continues to call on Iran to grant inspectors access to the site, although as of the spring of 2013, Iran had refused IAEA access while continuing to reconstruct the site...Nonetheless, the IAEA was unable to visit all the sites it wanted to inspect and the issue about nuclear weapons related work at Parchin remained unsettled.
At the time, the IAEA did not know about the high explosive test chamber mentioned above, which is located in another section of the Parchin site. The buildings it wanted to visit in 2005 are far from this chamber. Moreover, the inspectors were unlikely to have asked to visit the building housing the chamber, given its non-descript nature in a complex routinely testing high explosives and the large number of buildings at the Parchin site."
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Contrary to what you have been instructed to believe about those evil liberals, US will be the worlds #1 producer of oil in about 7 years. Yes, we will be producing more than Saudi Arabia.
Despite the idiot-in-chief's best obstructionist efforts.
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