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Old 11-29-2013, 11:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
It's a conservative website, so no surprises. I do think that in many ways Obama is worse than Bush, but not for the idiotic reasons cited by that website.

Ironic that a libertarian site would whine that a President isn't creating enough jobs, goes to show you that the label "libertarian" is a joke
Yeah I thought they were all about "the market"? You'd think with their anarchist tendencies, that they wouldn't rely on the President to "create jobs"? Lol, what do they think this is? China? Is that what they want really?

 
Old 11-29-2013, 11:41 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Another garbage thread. W was the most inept President in a century or more.
You must not have been very old during the Carter administration or else you wouldn't have written that. You may not have liked Bush or his policies, but that doesn't make him inept, and there have definately been worse. That is true even if we pretend the current administration is not in consideration for your statement, because we are never going to agree on who is worse between Obama and Bush.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 11:43 PM
 
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3. War

While W’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had bipartisan backing, and with prominent Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi having stated their beliefs that Iraq had wmds, Obama feels he has the authority to send troops to potentially die for the country without Congressional representation. Joe Biden said W. should be impeached if he unilaterally took the U.S. to war with Iran, but the Nobel Peace Prize winning president may do it twice with Libya and Syria, while racking up 74% of the U.S. fatalities in Afghanistan. What about civil liberties?
We haven't gone to war with Iran, Libya or Syria, so it's stupid to bring them up "what if", and you can't compare the number of US fatalities in those countries to Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
We haven't gone to war with Iran, Libya or Syria, so it's stupid to bring them up "what if", and you can't compare the number of US fatalities in those countries to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yep, because according to the rightwingers here, something President Obama "may do" is much, much worse than something President Bush did do. The right wingers get more and more unhinged by the day.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1 View Post
You must not have been very old during the Carter administration or else you wouldn't have written that. You may not have liked Bush or his policies, but that doesn't make him inept, and there have definately been worse. That is true even if we pretend the current administration is not in consideration for your statement, because we are never going to agree on who is worse between Obama and Bush.
No matter what you say about Carter, he doesn't have two failed wars under his belt.

4500 dead Americans over non existent weapons of mass destruction. Shameful.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 04:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
It's a conservative website, so no surprises. I do think that in many ways Obama is worse than Bush, but not for the idiotic reasons cited by that website.

Ironic that a libertarian site would whine that a President isn't creating enough jobs, goes to show you that the label "libertarian" is a joke
Because its not a libertarian website.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 04:26 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Yet another clueless thread from the Right

There is nothing you Pubs can say or do to run away from the fact that Dubya was the worst president in history. He was a pathetic, inept Republican. Desperately clinging to stupid lists like this shows that you Pubs don't belong at the table.

President Obama is a great President and doing a fine job...and don't you forget it either.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You are talking about a survey of 1000 adults lol What a joke of a survey this is
a survey is just that, whether 20 or 2 million and most mean nothing. I happen to think he was one of our best Presidents, I happen, also to think polls or surveys as you are calling this, are never really wroth much, except bragging rights. Wouldn't you think, if the shoe was on the other foot, the liberals would be the first on here to post and believer it. We see this everyday, regardless of which side it is.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 05:25 AM
 
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GWB was a bad president. But I think that article hit a little too close to home for some of these Obamabots.

Virtually everything that the Obamabots had complained about GWB doing Obama has doubled down on or expanded it from Bush.

Under Obama we have seen:

Afghanistan Escalated ~75% of the deaths on his watch.

Drone bases expanded with more drones over more countries and more civilian deaths.

Bush's Iraq withdrawal timeline, except Obama tried to extend it and left far more people there.

Increased lobbyists in WH.

Increased earmarks after Obama blasted Bush for them and promised to reduce them by veto if necessary.

Continued low-IQ poorly though out comments: "the police acted stupidly" "I can tell who is an immigrant by looking at their face" "I bowl like the special olympics" "I have been to 57 states" "Navy 'corpse man'" etc...

NSA.

Patriot Act.

More no-bid contracts than Bush.

No-bid contracts to Halliburton, something he specifically promised not to do.

Bombed more countries.

Flip flopped on whether he needed congress to bomb countries that weren't posing a threat.

Violated the war powers act by bombing after 60 days without going to congress.

Has done more signing statements than Bush after saying he wouldn't do any.

Lied about his own mother's death and continued to do so after getting caught. Scumbag move?

Obama said he would replace too big to fail...his new system has the same thing.

Torture - still happens...we just fly them to where it is legal to torture and have them do it.

Spying on citizens...

Fast and Furious...

Regressive taxes...payroll reduction was made up for with fees on middle and lower income fannie and freddie loans.


Lot of hypocrite GWB supporters should love Obama...Obama is Bush on steroids with most issues. Unless you think Bush walked a fine line and Obama goes above and beyond.

MORE hypocrite Obama supporters trashed Bush, but love Obama.

Last edited by michiganmoon; 11-30-2013 at 05:35 AM..
 
Old 11-30-2013, 05:43 AM
Status: "We need America back!" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Darth Barry is way worse than any president that's ever existed. Period. He has practically raped the world's most powerful office beyond anything you can imagine.
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